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Jan 30, 2019 23:03:35 GMT -5
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Post by The Cats on Jan 30, 2019 23:03:35 GMT -5
Steve, we'd like to know your memory and thoughts of the Samford game back in '69 and their no-show in '70......
Posted by SU DOG on the Samford Board
Posted by SU DOG on the Samford Board
Football Footnotes - Why SU Dropped WCU
Disclaimer: In NO way am I being judgmental to either of the two great universities discussed in this thread. My purpose is only to present what is hopefully an interesting topic of discussion.
November 8, 1969 was a beautiful day for a football game at Seibert Stadium, I know this because I was there. It was also Homecoming, and it was the very first meeting between the Samford University Bulldogs and the Western Carolina Catamounts. Coach Wayne Grubb was in his first season as HC at Samford and it was also the first year for the great coach Bob Waters as the Catamounts head man. Samford was 2-4-1 entering the game, while WCU would lose only one game all year, finishing 9-1. What happened on the field was nothing out of the ordinary, and Western would dominate the game winning 47-13. Two weeks earlier the Dogs had lost to Mississippi College 45-7, so like I say - nothing unusual score wise.
Samford fans that day added to their reputation of sitting on their hands, while Western had bused down a group of students who were rowdy and loud. This group yelled like a well orchestrated choir, and they drowned out everything else with their yells in unison and clear voice. The first yell I remember them doing was, "We're #2 - Where are you?" Whenever there was any Samford penalty they would chime (to the tune of The Farmer in The Dell) "A hankie on the play...a hankie on the play,,, Hi-ho the derry-O there's a hankie on the play." BUT when there was a penalty or some mis-play for the Cats, they would yell out "AAwwwwwwww...Shoot". Trouble was they didn't say "Shoot" any more than Richy said "Fudge" when he scattered the lug nuts. I'm sure that Seibert has had the profane "S" word uttered before and since, but NEVER EVER with the volume and clarity that resounded from those kids that day. They could probably have been clearly understood by someone on Lakeshore Drive, as it was definitely in high definition surround sound. The Samford side, with red-faced administrators, seemed to be in shock.
Coach Bob Waters was stricken with the dreaded disease of ALS. I last saw him on the sidelines in October of 1986 when the Catamounts were playing at Auburn, and he was coaching while in his wheelchair. He accomplished so many things with Western that I won't even try to list them, except to say that he carried Western Carolina to the 1aa National Championship Game in 1983. The Great One succumbed to ALS on May 29, 1989 about a month from his 51st birthday.
As for why Samford would not return that game scheduled for Cullowhee in 1970, no official reason was ever given that I know of. Draw your own conclusion, but I have to wonder if this was maybe the only college football game ever canceled for what an administration deemed "Moral Impropriety".
Disclaimer: In NO way am I being judgmental to either of the two great universities discussed in this thread. My purpose is only to present what is hopefully an interesting topic of discussion.
November 8, 1969 was a beautiful day for a football game at Seibert Stadium, I know this because I was there. It was also Homecoming, and it was the very first meeting between the Samford University Bulldogs and the Western Carolina Catamounts. Coach Wayne Grubb was in his first season as HC at Samford and it was also the first year for the great coach Bob Waters as the Catamounts head man. Samford was 2-4-1 entering the game, while WCU would lose only one game all year, finishing 9-1. What happened on the field was nothing out of the ordinary, and Western would dominate the game winning 47-13. Two weeks earlier the Dogs had lost to Mississippi College 45-7, so like I say - nothing unusual score wise.
Samford fans that day added to their reputation of sitting on their hands, while Western had bused down a group of students who were rowdy and loud. This group yelled like a well orchestrated choir, and they drowned out everything else with their yells in unison and clear voice. The first yell I remember them doing was, "We're #2 - Where are you?" Whenever there was any Samford penalty they would chime (to the tune of The Farmer in The Dell) "A hankie on the play...a hankie on the play,,, Hi-ho the derry-O there's a hankie on the play." BUT when there was a penalty or some mis-play for the Cats, they would yell out "AAwwwwwwww...Shoot". Trouble was they didn't say "Shoot" any more than Richy said "Fudge" when he scattered the lug nuts. I'm sure that Seibert has had the profane "S" word uttered before and since, but NEVER EVER with the volume and clarity that resounded from those kids that day. They could probably have been clearly understood by someone on Lakeshore Drive, as it was definitely in high definition surround sound. The Samford side, with red-faced administrators, seemed to be in shock.
Coach Bob Waters was stricken with the dreaded disease of ALS. I last saw him on the sidelines in October of 1986 when the Catamounts were playing at Auburn, and he was coaching while in his wheelchair. He accomplished so many things with Western that I won't even try to list them, except to say that he carried Western Carolina to the 1aa National Championship Game in 1983. The Great One succumbed to ALS on May 29, 1989 about a month from his 51st birthday.
As for why Samford would not return that game scheduled for Cullowhee in 1970, no official reason was ever given that I know of. Draw your own conclusion, but I have to wonder if this was maybe the only college football game ever canceled for what an administration deemed "Moral Impropriety".
