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Post by wcuecu2010 on Mar 19, 2019 18:15:19 GMT -5
The old chancellor's house that was near the campus on 5th St called "Dail House" was built in the 1930s had too many other residential areas near by. The house was small for the current time and the Board of Governors (not the current staff of BOGs) was considering a 3.5 million renovation of public funds. The current outgoing chancellor, the previous chancellor both complained that it was too small to host the varied events that are typical of a chancellor's house setting and during Halloween in Greenville, living there was a nightmare, often vandalized. During this time, a very prominent subdivision where a lot of those who have money in Greenville live, called Star Hill Farms, and where many of the football coaches have resided. Bought a house on sale in that subdivision and was paid for by the ECU Foundation (which funded by donations). BTW, the house is owned by ECU, not by the chancellor, when the chancellor resigns, retires, etc, he/she has to move. The concern of many was that the new house was too fancy and looked bourgeoise in a historically poor community and that it is almost 3 miles from campus. Again, I am here to just provide the facts not my opinion. The only opinion I will give is that I am still upset by the way the BOG and Smith did handle WCU chancellor's situation. We need a chancellor here not an interim. Abromowitz, M. (2018). New home being purchased for ECU chancellor's residence. Reflector.com. Retrieved from www.reflector.com/News/2018/01/18/New-home-being-purchased-for-ECU-chancellors-residence.htmlStancill,J. (2018). ECU Foundation buys 1.3 million home for chancellor. The News & Observer. Retrieved from: www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/article203560209.html |
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Post by catamount87 on Mar 21, 2019 9:17:42 GMT -5
In the case of ECU, it has been abundantly clear that BOG chair Smith tried to push a number of actions at ECU that would have benefited him greatly. Of course it was all in the guise of "good for the university". I think a pretty good argument can be made that the UNC BOG is out of control. You're right on time, as one of the regular BOG most vocal critics. So then, you're OK with a new $2 million house for his highness, the ECU Chancellor? It's all the UNC BOG's fault, right? I don't know all the ins and outs of the ECU chancellor's residence issue. That whole things sounds a bit fishy too and those involved need to answer questions and address concerns. Now, calling me out as "as one of the regular BOG most vocal critics". Really you're going to label me that way? I've not commented much on their actions other than the Fetzer issue where I questioned his methods but not his reasons and this ECU issue which clearly has conflicts of interest issues with the chairman. Beyond that, I've stayed quiet about the BOG. So, I have to wonder why you are passively, aggressively trying to disparage me by tossing that label at me. |
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Mar 21, 2019 12:02:07 GMT -5
You're right on time, as one of the regular BOG most vocal critics. So then, you're OK with a new $2 million house for his highness, the ECU Chancellor? It's all the UNC BOG's fault, right? I don't know all the ins and outs of the ECU chancellor's residence issue. That whole things sounds a bit fishy too and those involved need to answer questions and address concerns. Now, calling me out as "as one of the regular BOG most vocal critics". Really you're going to label me that way? I've not commented much on their actions other than the Fetzer issue where I questioned his methods but not his reasons and this ECU issue which clearly has conflicts of interest issues with the chairman. Beyond that, I've stayed quiet about the BOG. So, I have to wonder why you are passively, aggressively trying to disparage me by tossing that label at me. I agree with you 87. You said nothing about the ECU's Chancellors house in your post. Also, since the governance structure that oversees the NC system starts and ends with the BOG, I think it is totally appropriate to let the buck stop with them. They can't have it both ways. They can't have final say on all decisions like they do and expect to not be held accountable for whatever happens in the system under their watch, including the purchasing of mansions for the Chancellors to reside in. |
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Mar 21, 2019 17:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by The Cats on Mar 21, 2019 19:30:33 GMT -5
Didn't they handle the second search pretty much the way they handled the original search? Didn't they came up with 3 candidates and submitted them to UNC? What's the beef? The only thing that would make things different is if the search was completed in public, rather than behind closed doors. I think the public has a right to know who the entire candidate list is, then who the search committee chose to interview from that pool, and then the three leading candidates that are submitted to the president and BOG. I don't understand how it served the public interest for this entire process to be done in secret. It seems that rather than public servants, the entire UNC system (BOG, university president, and the entire UNC administration) have an inflated opinion of their worth & their jobs and they feel the public only has a right to know what they want the public to know. Just like the multi-million dollar university chancellor residents, the UNC system has become like the entire federal government, and it's all gotten entirely out of hand, with no accountability to the taxpayers. |
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Mar 21, 2019 23:02:37 GMT -5
Didn't they handle the second search pretty much the way they handled the original search? Didn't they came up with 3 candidates and submitted them to UNC? What's the beef? The only thing that would make things different is if the search was completed in public, rather than behind closed doors. I think the public has a right to know who the entire candidate list is, then who the search committee chose to interview from that pool, and then the three leading candidates that are submitted to the president and BOG. I don't understand how it served the public interest for this entire process to be done in secret. It seems that rather than public servants, the entire UNC system (BOG, university president, and the entire UNC administration) have an inflated opinion of their worth & their jobs and they feel the public only has a right to know what they want the public to know. Just like the multi-million dollar university chancellor residents, the UNC system has become like the entire federal government, and it's all gotten entirely out of hand, with no accountability to the taxpayers. The beef I have is the way they handled the first search. Fetzer or whatever his name is cratered it for whatever reason. He claims the candidate did not tell the truth on his resume but who knows what his true motives were. I suspect he colluded with other members of the board to stop the nomination for political reasons. Everything the BOGs has done in the last several years is politically motivated. There is absolutely no place for politics in who the Chancellors should be. Just because the board is Republican should have absolutely nothing to do with who is chosen as chancellor but with this crew it has everything to do with who they will allow to be our chancellor. Just watch and see. |
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Post by wcatradio75 on Mar 22, 2019 7:51:28 GMT -5
It seems pretty clear the reason for secrecy in the search. It is to protect the candidates and to be able to get the best candidates to apply. If you are looking for a new job while currently employed, you don't usually tell your employer that you are interviewing elsewhere. It doesn't serve anyone well. That's also the reason they don't release the names of the candidates who didn't get the job.
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Post by The Cats on Mar 22, 2019 12:13:55 GMT -5
It seems pretty clear the reason for secrecy in the search. It is to protect the candidates and to be able to get the best candidates to apply. If you are looking for a new job while currently employed, you don't usually tell your employer that you are interviewing elsewhere. It doesn't serve anyone well. That's also the reason they don't release the names of the candidates who didn't get the job. I totally disagree with the perception that candidates need protection from their university employer that they are applying for a chancellor position. These folks move from university to university their entire careers. That's the way they move up the educational latter, and they all know this. No university is going to fire an employee JUST because they applied for a better position at another university. This current system is laid out by university systems all over the country. SO they can operate in secrecy. They don't want the public to know what they are doing or who they are considering until it's over. The light of day should be shed on the entire university system, They should not operate in darkness and they should have to operate in public, not in private. The schools we are talking about are PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES, operating on the taxpayers' dime. What they do should be done openly, fully within the view of the very public that is paying their bills, not just informing the public once they have made a decision. |
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Post by bigcatfan on Mar 22, 2019 12:55:19 GMT -5
Talk to anyone who currently works in a senior administration role at a college or university, and with the exception of Athletic Directors, the majority will tell you that it is imperative that their interest in changing jobs and pursuing other opportunities at other institutions is kept quiet. We may think that it's standard procedure for folks to come and go as they please in these roles, but I can assure you that it ain't so.
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Post by The Cats on Mar 22, 2019 13:14:54 GMT -5
Talk to anyone who currently works in a senior administration role at a college or university, and with the exception of Athletic Directors, the majority will tell you that it is imperative that their interest in changing jobs and pursuing other opportunities at other institutions is kept quiet. We may think that it's standard procedure for folks to come and go as they please in these roles, but I can assure you that it ain't so. That is beside the point, it should be done in the open. If a candidate fears for his/her job.... don't apply. These actions should not be done behind closed doors, I'll say again, we are talking about PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES, and their business should not be conducted in secret. The public should demand it, and elect folks that will make it the policy. Too much crap in done behind closed doors in the country now, and as I grow older, it happens more and more. When these things are done in secret, how can you have any faith they are done fairly, and within the policy and within the law? I don't have faith that they do, and all those that squeal about the current legislature and current BOG should be saying the same thing I have said. But, they won't say a word about this, because they want things done their way, by their people, and in secret. |
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