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Post by Speedwell Cat on Sept 18, 2024 10:57:46 GMT -5
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Post by The Cats on Sept 18, 2024 12:59:43 GMT -5
Where do you think the SoCon will land?
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Post by wcugrad95 on Sept 18, 2024 15:15:26 GMT -5
Hard to really tell yet. Could be that we have a huge NCAA Division-1 field with all the G5 and FCS conferences together while the top 80 or so go off into this new NCAA "pro division" tier. Or could be that an even smaller group forms that "pro" division, and we have the old NCAA D1 and NCAA D1-AA kind of setup.
For the SOCON, seems like the members have decided we are pretty good staying together. I don't think any of the schools really have enough money to successfully move "up" since we don't know what that will even mean. Most likely it means a huge shake-up and realignment of the teams who don't get with the big boys into something that makes more geographic and financial sense. And that would probably be a good thing. Could even help drive some of the growth of the SOCON that is frequentl speculated (adding teams like William & Mary, NC A&T, etc.).
A free for all seems to be coming where the NCAA is really just going to do whatever the big schools tell them unless the big schools break off.
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Post by catamountalum04 on Sept 19, 2024 15:02:33 GMT -5
I think the teams that have moved up to FBS in the last ten years that have done well for themselves like JMU, Coastal, App etc will fight to not have to go back to a 1-aa category
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Sept 19, 2024 17:11:56 GMT -5
I think the teams that have moved up to FBS in the last ten years that have done well for themselves like JMU, Coastal, App etc will fight to not have to go back to a 1-aa category They may fight it but they don’t have the money and they are not in a power conference. So how do they stay in the top tier. Do you think App or JMU has the resources to stay and compete at the top level. I was reading that JMU already loses several million dollars a year on athletics. How can they fight it. They may pitch a fit but the big boy football schools don’t care what App thinks. It’s all about the money and the big schools want to pay their players more than millions a year. They want it to be semi pro. There will be no real fight. Those schools might make noise, but they will be told to put up the cash or shut up and they don’t have that kind of money. |
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Post by catamountalum04 on Sept 19, 2024 17:30:43 GMT -5
I think App makes it if it is P4 plus another top 20 programs on top of that like Liberty or Boise St
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Sept 19, 2024 18:06:05 GMT -5
How are they going to go to P4 and they have not been a top 20 program? Also, how can they afford to be in the top tier on the budget they have. I think schools like Wake Forrest might also struggle to stay in P3 if the ACC folds. No Top tier conference is going to want to add Wake to their conference. The money that they are talking about spending at these large university is crazy. How would a school like App compete? What does App have to offer a power conference. Not one Power conference is going to invite App to join their conference. Conference USA did not even want them when they originally moved up. I don’t care what happens, but it is a big stretch to think that Appy State could join and compete in a power conference. They can’t afford it. We might only eventually have 2 or 3 major mega Power Conferences anyway.
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Post by catamountalum04 on Sept 19, 2024 20:31:19 GMT -5
i am not sure of thier football budget. I saw a proposal of all of the P4 teams plus 20 more top FBS teams and that would be the new conference
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Post by catamountalum04 on Sept 19, 2024 21:37:32 GMT -5
the thing about this split that i can't wrap my head around is let's say there is P4 and the rest of the FBS teams drop back down to a 1-AA league. From a playoff standpoint would the playoffs not just be the left over FBS teams plus maybe SDSU, NDSU, etc type teams sprinkled in. Like even if App, Coastal, JMU drop back down they spend a ton more money on football and have large FBS stadiums compared to most of the FCS teams. So most current FCS would be over matched and over spent by the left over FBS teams. A good example would be if App dropped back down and WCU played them. App spends so much more than Western does and has better facilities so how would we even be competitive vs them. We would both be FCS teams again
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Post by wcugrad95 on Sept 20, 2024 8:09:02 GMT -5
The biggest change would come if they revoked the rule that said to be D1 you had to do that for all sports. If they treat football separately from everything else (which all this seems to be doing), you’d probably see lots of FCS schools dropping down if they could still be D1 in basketball, baseball, etc. And the schools that choose to stay in whatever that D1 level is considered would be making a decision to either spend appropriately or accept that you will be competing at a disadvantage.
A school like Davidson would quickly change. A school like WCU would have to decide.
But we could end up with let’s say 64 schools in the “big boy” league - gives them a nice set of 4 conferences with 16 schools each, lines up conference championships being semifinals, etc. (just like the NFL). Then the next 64 are D1. Then 120 or so are still FCS or D1-AA. Same as now, except the top level would be totally broken off and the middle level would be playing for a new championship.
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