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Post by The Cats on Apr 26, 2018 21:41:29 GMT -5
If they do not sign with WCU, it want be the results of anything posted on this board. It will be the results of the coaching on the field & the current players on this team. If you have watched the Cats like I have, it would be hard for anyone to convince me that no Coach in Catamount Baseball History has ever put a team on the field that has been this pitiful. It is hard to protect a team like this year from perspective players. The damage to the WCU Baseball Program this season has been tremendous & it will be a big hurdle to jump to restore the program back to a respected status it has achieved over the years. I agree with Jim on this one. We have won what 4 games this year and 2 conference games. I think worrying about what is posted on this board or any other message board is the least of our worries when it comes to HS players picking the Catamounts. Well, that's the difference between you and me. I do worry about what is posted on this board, and how it affects recruitment, and I do think postings can and do have a negative effect on recruiting. You, on the other hand, have the luxury of only worrying about what you post (if in fact, you do worry about anything you post). |
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Apr 26, 2018 22:26:21 GMT -5
I agree with Jim on this one. We have won what 4 games this year and 2 conference games. I think worrying about what is posted on this board or any other message board is the least of our worries when it comes to HS players picking the Catamounts. Well, that's the difference between you and me. I do worry about what is posted on this board, and how it affects recruitment, and I do think postings can and do have a negative effect on recruiting. You, on the other hand, have the luxury of only worrying about what you post (if in fact, you do worry about anything you post). Peace man. We are on the same side and I respect all that you do for Western Carolina. This board is a service to all Catamount fans and you obviously have spent and spend allot of time on this. Thank You! I was just saying that this year, I believe the record will hurt recruiting more than anything else. I understand that parents and recruits read these boards. Have you ever looked at some of the FBS boards. There have been football, basketball and baseball coaches at some of the SEC schools that consistently win over 80 percent of their games and some fans are calling for their heads. We are very tame compared to some of the larger school boards. They get downright ugly and threatening with some of their comments. You are in control. If you deem something inappropriate, you can move it to the Members Only board or delete the post. People have freedom of speech but not on a proprietary message board which is how it should be. I do always think about what I post and I have an opinion on just about everything as I am sure you have noticed. I do respect others opinions though and think that the best way to fix any problem is to get it out there and let people discuss it. I never talk disparaging about current or former Catamount players because I respect what they have to go through to be a student athlete at Western or any school and they are just kids. I do complain about the paid professionals (hired help) because they are all fair game and most of them are not alumni so they just work for the school and get a pay check for their loyalty and will be gone if someone offers them more. GO CATS!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 23:08:30 GMT -5
If you want to know the real problems with this team, it's fairly simple: veterans underperforming, injuries, the pitching good, but very young and the lack of regular at bats for some of younger guys. Pretty simple.
Keep in mind that We've been in almost every game (save a few blow outs), but one bad inning and the failure to get that timely hit -- all these things affect the ultimate outcome.
Closer examination of the reasons:
1. 1 bad inning has killed us in virtually every game
2. Our veterans are batting anywhere from 80 to 100 pts lower than they did last year:
Last years stats: 10 Matthew Koehler.. .303
15 Caleb Robinson... .279
9 Cameron Blaquiere .267
34 Andrew Robinson.. .314
8 Spencer Holcomb.. .291
19 Justin Sparks.... .269
3. The players with upside have limited at bats. Take the freshman Prater for example, when he was batting once every few days with an occasional start, he was hovering around .200. Now that he is getting regular at bats, he is pushing the average up and up. He had 2 hits against UNC. The other freshman, Cappell, Fricks, Parks, are hovering around that 200. You could only expect that their averages would climb a ton with regular at bats.
4. We lost a ton of pitching from last year and while the freshman have done an admirable job, that one inning where an error, a few walks and a timely hit by the other team happens, we drop 3, 4, or even 7 runs.
THIS TEAM IS NOT BAD. THE PERSONNEL IS NOT BAD. I think all of the freshman will be HUGE contributors in the future. Offensively, Bigbie, Prater, Fricks, Cappell, Parks -- They've got great futures at WCU. The pitchers, Franklin, Walter, Bishop -- WOW. These kids are gonna be great.
THE BOTTOM LINE: Offensively - Had the upperclassmen performed as they did last year, we would be winning a lot of those close games.
Defensively - we've gotten better, but injuries have hurt us
Pitching - we're just young and we have to live with it. But, the future looks bright!
Who knows, if the upperclassmen start hitting, the guys with few ABs get some regular time at the plate and we get out of a few of those bad innings that have killed us, who knows? We might surprise some folks in the tournament.
Losing sucks for everyone! Time heals many wounds.
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Post by jim68 on Apr 27, 2018 9:50:02 GMT -5
I agree with Jim on this one. We have won what 4 games this year and 2 conference games. I think worrying about what is posted on this board or any other message board is the least of our worries when it comes to HS players picking the Catamounts. Well, that's the difference between you and me. I do worry about what is posted on this board, and how it affects recruitment, and I do think postings can and do have a negative effect on recruiting. You, on the other hand, have the luxury of only worrying about what you post (if in fact, you do worry about anything you post). I guess we only need to think happy thoughts about Athletics at WCU according to TheCat. Any comments based on reality will be construed as blasphemous to recruits or the Athletics Program. There has not been anything written on this board that can’t be corrected by the Administration coupled with the Coaching Staffs at WCU. Instead of backbiting each other on this board, our attention should always be directed at the source of our discontent. The time for making excuses for a poor performing Athletic Program at WCU is long over. I guess I’m not going to paint a false picture for recruits. Forgive me for not being content & not being a happy failure when it comes to WCU Athletics. TheCat, you have a nice day & I respect your comments. |
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Post by bigbaseball on Apr 27, 2018 11:32:12 GMT -5
If you want to know the real problems with this team, it's fairly simple: veterans underperforming, injuries, the pitching good, but very young and the lack of regular at bats for some of younger guys. Pretty simple. Keep in mind that We've been in almost every game (save a few blow outs), but one bad inning and the failure to get that timely hit -- all these things affect the ultimate outcome. Closer examination of the reasons: 1. 1 bad inning has killed us in virtually every game 2. Our veterans are batting anywhere from 80 to 100 pts lower than they did last year: Last years stats: 10 Matthew Koehler.. .303 15 Caleb Robinson... .279 9 Cameron Blaquiere .267 34 Andrew Robinson.. .314 8 Spencer Holcomb.. .291 19 Justin Sparks.... .269 3. The players with upside have limited at bats. Take the freshman Prater for example, when he was batting once every few days with an occasional start, he was hovering around .200. Now that he is getting regular at bats, he is pushing the average up and up. He had 2 hits against UNC. The other freshman, Cappell, Fricks, Parks, are hovering around that 200. You could only expect that their averages would climb a ton with regular at bats. 4. We lost a ton of pitching from last year and while the freshman have done an admirable job, that one inning where an error, a few walks and a timely hit by the other team happens, we drop 3, 4, or even 7 runs. THIS TEAM IS NOT BAD. THE PERSONNEL IS NOT BAD. I think all of the freshman will be HUGE contributors in the future. Offensively, Bigbie, Prater, Fricks, Cappell, Parks -- They've got great futures at WCU. The pitchers, Franklin, Walter, Bishop -- WOW. These kids are gonna be great. THE BOTTOM LINE: Offensively - Had the upperclassmen performed as they did last year, we would be winning a lot of those close games. Defensively - we've gotten better, but injuries have hurt us Pitching - we're just young and we have to live with it. But, the future looks bright! Who knows, if the upperclassmen start hitting, the guys with few ABs get some regular time at the plate and we get out of a few of those bad innings that have killed us, who knows? We might surprise some folks in the tournament. Losing sucks for everyone! Time heals many wounds. LOOKS LIKE THE SOFTER SIDE OF CATNTHEHAT!!! WHAT HAPPENED TO CATASTRODAMUS? HAHA But, I think he is right. Let's get ready for the TOURNEY! GO CATS! |
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Post by The Cats on Apr 27, 2018 13:13:27 GMT -5
Well, that's the difference between you and me. I do worry about what is posted on this board, and how it affects recruitment, and I do think postings can and do have a negative effect on recruiting. You, on the other hand, have the luxury of only worrying about what you post (if in fact, you do worry about anything you post). I guess we only need to think happy thoughts about Athletics at WCU according to TheCat. Any comments based on reality will be construed as blasphemous to recruits or the Athletics Program. There has not been anything written on this board that can’t be corrected by the Administration coupled with the Coaching Staffs at WCU. Instead of backbiting each other on this board, our attention should always be directed at the source of our discontent. The time for making excuses for a poor performing Athletic Program at WCU is long over. I guess I’m not going to paint a false picture for recruits. Forgive me for not being content & not being a happy failure when it comes to WCU Athletics. TheCat, you have a nice day & I respect your comments. #1 - It makes no difference to me what kind of thoughts you have about athletics at WCU, good or bad. #2 - Yes any personal attacks are negatively viewed by recruits and others. #3 - I don't think I've seen anyone make excuses for poor performance on this board #4 - I've never requested that you or any other member of this board paint a false picture for recruits, if I have please refresh my memory. #5 - It not important to me either way, if you are content or happy when it comes to WCU athletics, and I've never stopped you from stating your opinions (both negative & positive), except when you crossed the line. You as well, have a nice day. I also respect your comments, except when you feel the need to attack other posters because they don't share your opinions, as you did me in the above post. - Jerry Love (aka The Cats, long before I started this board). |
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Post by jim68 on Apr 27, 2018 14:15:36 GMT -5
I guess we only need to think happy thoughts about Athletics at WCU according to TheCat. Any comments based on reality will be construed as blasphemous to recruits or the Athletics Program. There has not been anything written on this board that can’t be corrected by the Administration coupled with the Coaching Staffs at WCU. Instead of backbiting each other on this board, our attention should always be directed at the source of our discontent. The time for making excuses for a poor performing Athletic Program at WCU is long over. I guess I’m not going to paint a false picture for recruits. Forgive me for not being content & not being a happy failure when it comes to WCU Athletics. TheCat, you have a nice day & I respect your comments. #1 - It makes no difference to me what kind of thoughts you have about athletics at WCU, good or bad. #2 - Yes any personal attacks are negatively viewed by recruits and others. #3 - I don't think I've seen anyone make excuses for poor performance on this board #4 - I've never requested that you or any other member of this board paint a false picture for recruits, if I have please refresh my memory. #5 - It not important to me either way, if you are content or happy when it comes to WCU athletics, and I've never stopped you from stating your opinions (both negative & positive), except when you crossed the line. You as well, have a nice day. I also respect your comments, except when you feel the need to attack other posters because they don't share your opinions, as you did me in the above post. - Jerry Love (aka The Cats, long before I started this board). I do think about what I’m going to say. I try to be realistic & reflect what is actually happening on the field or on the basketball court. It is just like Jim66 stated a few days ago, “If you try to be realistic on this board, you’ll be labeled as negative & you’ll be attacked”. I personally believe you are trying to make this board a platform for Catamount Cheerleading & silencing posters like me. With that, I will not bother you anymore. I tried to give this board one more shot but your comments today has made me rethink my position. |
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Post by Baseball Guy on Apr 30, 2018 7:39:21 GMT -5
Well my friends it looks like Coach Mo might be getting the message which was certainly my intention. I see a few guys got to play the whole series this weekend. He took a step in the right direction as a Coach but then I find out he has let the Junior College transfer that hit 380 go from the team because he was being negative. If I was 3-38 and had to sit and watch others do absolutely nothing and I didn't feel some kind of way I would go ahead a quit playing baseball. Competitiveness is was makes us better. Personally I think it was his way of keeping his boys in the lineup. As a Coach he was not doing his job and then he goes and destroys a kids dream and takes him off the team. I Hope the Administration does the University a huge favor and does the same to him.
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Post by Baseball Alum on May 3, 2018 16:16:20 GMT -5
Mo wants a bunch of "yes men" any player or coach that challenges his thoughts or decisions will be out the door. I have seen this first hand with both players and coaches when I played under him. Maybe his ego is too big or too fragile to handle anyone that doesn't agree with 100% of his philosophies.
It's his way or the highway and don't you dare question his way. This could be why there are guys on the bench not getting opportunities. They have to be on the same page as Mo otherwise they will get black balled until the player in front of them either gets injured or has played so bad for so long that he has no other choice but to play them.
Finally, as a former college baseball coach and select coach in the area, I can honestly say that Bobby Mo does not have the greatest reputation among his peers and is often called a "used car salesman". He sells players on the Oakleys, the gloves, the fans, his rings at Georgia Tech, his impeccable snow skiing skills, all of the players that he "made" into professional baseball players (a good percentage of them at WCU have been walk-ons that he didn't recruit) and so on and so forth. Don't get it twisted Mo is not a Catamount he has been wanting out since he got to Cullowhee and has applied for numerous head coaching jobs, but no major University wants him. Eventually you have to ask yourself, Why couldn't he get a big time coaching job after some of the great seasons he has had? After all, every other coach that came through WCU and had seasons like he had were able to land somewhere. why not him? (it's not because he bleeds purple & gold)
But hey he has had a pretty successful career, so I'll tip my hat to the guy. Maybe Beck will be back at his Alma Mater. |
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Post by jim68 on May 3, 2018 18:10:04 GMT -5
Mo wants a bunch of "yes men" any player or coach that challenges his thoughts or decisions will be out the door. I have seen this first hand with both players and coaches when I played under him. Maybe his ego is too big or too fragile to handle anyone that doesn't agree with 100% of his philosophies.
It's his way or the highway and don't you dare question his way. This could be why there are guys on the bench not getting opportunities. They have to be on the same page as Mo otherwise they will get black balled until the player in front of them either gets injured or has played so bad for so long that he has no other choice but to play them.
Finally, as a former college baseball coach and select coach in the area, I can honestly say that Bobby Mo does not have the greatest reputation among his peers and is often called a "used car salesman". He sells players on the Oakleys, the gloves, the fans, his rings at Georgia Tech, his impeccable snow skiing skills, all of the players that he "made" into professional baseball players (a good percentage of them at WCU have been walk-ons that he didn't recruit) and so on and so forth. Don't get it twisted Mo is not a Catamount he has been wanting out since he got to Cullowhee and has applied for numerous head coaching jobs, but no major University wants him. Eventually you have to ask yourself, Why couldn't he get a big time coaching job after some of the great seasons he has had? After all, every other coach that came through WCU and had seasons like he had were able to land somewhere. why not him? (it's not because he bleeds purple & gold)
But hey he has had a pretty successful career, so I'll tip my hat to the guy. Maybe Beck will be back at his Alma Mater. I have heard the same thing but have not posted it because of being jumped on for starting rumors. I use to support Coach Mo but based on your comments coupled with what I have been told, this poor season and his terrible coaching performance, it is time for new blood to get the Program back on track. I believe Coach Mo has out lived his welcome at WCU. |
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