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Post by wcuecu2010 on Sept 2, 2018 20:25:01 GMT -5
We may have a big offensive line - may be too big to block in this up tempo offense we run - OL looked gassed many times last night. Also, not going to win when defensive secondary has to make all the tackles. Noticed last night the players and coaches on side-lines were dead - this is on you Coach Speir! I am sure Coach Speir will agree with you about it being on him, he takes responsibility for everything that does not go well with the team. However, I feel he will work his but off to make sure that many of the mistakes don't happen again. And still we pulled out a victory so it not like we lost 33-26, we did escape with our lives.
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Post by jim64 on Sept 2, 2018 20:29:56 GMT -5
The negatives are being covered well, and lord knows there are plenty of them to point to. I am terrified to think if our D doesn't find something that Furman is going to simply run that big FB about 60 times right up the gut and gain 350-400 yards rushing, and the breakdowns in coverage means that Hodges and Samford will throw for at least 500. And I am typically all-in with smack's posts, but I saw a whole bunch of times with the O that we tried to run the ball up the middle and simply couldn't (especially early on). If Newberry's undersized D-line can blow up some of our running plays, SoCon defenses will do the same. Our strength is obviously on offense, but if Newberry takes our D to the woodshed like that and keeps the ball out of Tyrie's hands, I can see teams like Wofford and Citadel only giving us a handful of posessions for the entire game. Now for at least a couple of positives. - We won - even though it was against D2 and some of the others played FBS games, I have to think being 1-0 this morning is better than what Mercer and VMI are feeling.
- Patten in particular, but also Mullen proved that along with Mathis we are going to be fine at WR.
- We still can't kick the dang ball into the endzone on a kickoff (did you guys pay attention to Newberry's kicker???), but we did make 2 FGs (negative - we also shanked a PAT).
- We had no turnovers.
- I think Holloway will be a difference-maker on those 2nd and 3rd down short yardage situations.
Originally I hated the start to our season schedule, but now I am pretty happy that we have the BYE, GWU, and VMI to try and figure this thing out.
You are exactly right! We couldn't have asked for a better schedule based on our performance. BYE week, GWU, then VMI giving us a chance to get straightened out. We couldn't run the ball up the middle. Got stuffed many times. Concerning against a D- II to say the least. Running backs? Uh-oh. Adams won't make it another 2-3 games if he continues running the ball like he did. He'll get injured. This looks to be a repeat of Adam's first starting year when we didn't have the depth at skill positions. Our defensive backs in particular looked not so good. BIG TROUBLE if our secondary doesn't shape up. Our defensive line got good penetration but too slow and angles were off. This could've been bc their quarterback(s) were exceptional or we just need to relearn tackling....too early to tell. Well, if you stop Adams from running to protect him, you need to replace him with a QB that can throw & run. The Spread Offense is set up to have a QB that can run or throw. Go back & read Smacks comments on how Newberry were using their Defensive Ends. Adams should have run more based on Newberry’s Defensive Scheme. We have an outstanding QB behind Adams & all he needs is some playing time. It important for the OC to use all of Adams talents or sacrifice games on the schedule. We have seen this movie before & we know what impact it had on the team when the OC tried to protect Adams with his play calling in the past.
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Post by catamountalum04 on Sept 2, 2018 20:59:59 GMT -5
I spoke to 2 former players yesterday and they both stated that the D is in trouble. They think what we saw yesterday was the real D not just a team that was not prepared and that they think Wiley and the way they have recruited the last 2 years has not helped matters. They don't think the past 2 recruiting classes on the D side have been very good. I thought they looked like good classes but what do i know.
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Sept 2, 2018 21:45:40 GMT -5
I spoke to 2 former players yesterday and they both stated that the D is in trouble. They think what we saw yesterday was the real D not just a team that was not prepared and that they think Wiley and the way they have recruited the last 2 years has not helped matters. They don't think the past 2 recruiting classes on the D side have been very good. I thought they looked like good classes but what do i know. It was the first game and what makes former players good judges of talent? We all knew the defense was young coming into the season and according to Speir, we had 4 players on defense that were out. Coaches always say that the biggest improvement always becomes between the first and second game. We will be OK because we do have good players and good coaches. If we beat GW in 2 weeks and VMI, everybody on here will be crowing about how good we are this year and how we will beat Furman like a rented mule. I was at the game and Newberry has a pretty good offense and good coaching. They also came in with a good game plan and allot of confidence. They have good talent similar to FSC talent. I wish we would have blown them out but after seeing them play, they have a pretty good team. Newberry is famous for upsetting FCS teams. They have beaten Furman in the past. We will be OK and win 6 or 7 games. Everyone needs to relax and take a deep breath.
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Post by wcugrad95 on Sept 2, 2018 21:50:13 GMT -5
Ok - who has stolen FLCATAMOUNT's password and logged in to write a "relax - everything is going to be ok" message 😁
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Post by Sam on Sept 2, 2018 21:53:58 GMT -5
I read smack's comments and understand what the DEs were doing and it worked as planned - kudos for Newberry into forcing the play. However, if we can only rely on a 'one man show' in Adams scoring all the TD's via option reads and misc. scrambles that's a risky business. I would just hate to see Adams get hurt and if he runs as much as he did during this game in future ones he will get hurt no doubt - it's just matter of time.
I hope Corey H. at RB comes back soon and wonder if Western will redshirt that little freshman RB? He's probably fast as greased lightening.
New faces at WR looked to be good.
We had no turnovers and that was good ( got lucky on that interception called back due to a penalty)
I will tell you this, if our D had made 2-3 more TFL / sacs we would have won that game by 21 points....All it would have taken were 2-3 on key plays.
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Post by wcugrad95 on Sept 2, 2018 22:08:52 GMT -5
The offense we run is a slightly updated version of what App State ran with Armanti Edwards at QB when they were winning titles. They were so good because they had a good RB but mainly because if a DE crashed down Edwards was a threat to scorch the D for 20+ yards running it. The idea this year is supposed to be that since we now have a very capable back-up there is no reason to not be shy in utilizing Adam's great ability to run the ball.
I totally understand not wanting him to get hurt, and I think he needs to be taught about how to slide or step out of bounds or even just go down instead of trying to get every extra yard (resulted in his helmet coming off a couple of times). But I certainly agree there were a number of times it seemed he could/should have pulled the ball and ran to the outside. If he is being coached to hand it off without question then the play is no longer an RPO - it is a straight dive play when we aren't blocking the end. So either don't restrict him OR if he is making the wrong read, help correct it.
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Post by fecurry8 on Sept 3, 2018 7:59:44 GMT -5
If the little RB you are talking about is Atkins (who they announced incorrectly on returns a few times)he is redshirted. I didn't even see him on the field. Choosing to stay positive in spite of the shock of how we played. I hope the guys do the same!
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Post by wcatradio75 on Sept 3, 2018 9:52:39 GMT -5
Ok - who has stolen FLCATAMOUNT's password and logged in to write a "relax - everything is going to be ok" message 😁 I was thinking the same thing! Glad he was at the game...
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Post by jim64 on Sept 3, 2018 9:56:58 GMT -5
I read smack's comments and understand what the DEs were doing and it worked as planned - kudos for Newberry into forcing the play. However, if we can only rely on a 'one man show' in Adams scoring all the TD's via option reads and misc. scrambles that's a risky business. I would just hate to see Adams get hurt and if he runs as much as he did during this game in future ones he will get hurt no doubt - it's just matter of time. I hope Corey H. at RB comes back soon and wonder if Western will redshirt that little freshman RB? He's probably fast as greased lightening. New faces at WR looked to be good. We had no turnovers and that was good ( got lucky on that interception called back due to a penalty) I will tell you this, if our D had made 2-3 more TFL / sacs we would have won that game by 21 points....All it would have taken were 2-3 on key plays. If you are not going to run the QB, you need to stop running the Spread Formation. I repeat, the QB is a running back in the Spread Formation. Adams is a better runner than he is a passer. One of the big negatives about running the Spread Formation is the greater possibility of getting the QB hurt. Speir & the Coaching Staff made that decision when they came to Cullowhee.
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