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Post by The Cats on Sept 23, 2018 10:19:42 GMT -5
75 - right now it looks like something is wrong and no ESPN+ replays are available (I changed to several days and even back to games I have replayed earlier). When it is working, try this link: www.espn.com/watch/schedule?channel=espnplus&type=replayThat should put you on the page with "replay" chosen for the schedule. Change the date to the day you want to watch (Sat 22 for yesterday's game), and change the sport to be football. Make sure the channel is ESPN+. You ***should*** see the WCU game in the list whenever they get the games back and available. The replay feature is working fine for me this morning. Could it be the link you use to access ESPN+? Use this link www.espn.com/watch/
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Post by wcugrad95 on Sept 23, 2018 12:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Sept 23, 2018 15:45:14 GMT -5
It is very disheartening. Great crowd, great weather, and a 2-0 start. Then this miserable game. Out played and out coached. I hope we can make our free throws this upcoming B-ball season..... We would have won by 2 scores if the OC had not called the pass play when we were up by 8 with a little more than 4 minutes left in the game. We were able to run the ball consistently the entire second half and we would have probably been able to run the ball, control the clock and add at least a field goal. That was a dumb call and I think we got greedy and decided to surprise everyone and got burned, but if it had worked, we would all be talking about what a great play that was. Also, I was at the game and I hear everyone on this board say we should fire the OC. We scored 52 points in the game. Should we have scored 70 or 80. What game were you watching. We scored on most of our possessions. The defense is the problem and it is because we are young and playing allot of freshmen. There is nothing else going on here. We have a young defense and we might not win another game this year. I am just glad that we started with the 3 weakest teams on our schedule. Who knows though, maybe we can fix somethings this week and pull one out against Furman next week. I am still a believer in this coaching staff and this team. Much better by far than anything that Dennis Wagner ever put on the field. We are not world beaters but we have good players who will get better as they get more playing time. That is where we are plain and simple. As we spend more money on Football, we will get better each year.
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Post by catamountfanatic07 on Sept 23, 2018 16:17:50 GMT -5
It is very disheartening. Great crowd, great weather, and a 2-0 start. Then this miserable game. Out played and out coached. I hope we can make our free throws this upcoming B-ball season..... We would have won by 2 scores if the OC had not called the pass play when we were up by 8 with a little more than 4 minutes left in the game. We were able to run the ball consistently the entire second half and we would have probably been able to run the ball, control the clock and add at least a field goal. That was a dumb call and I think we got greedy and decided to surprise everyone and got burned, but if it had worked, we would all be talking about what a great play that was. Also, I was at the game and I hear everyone on this board say we should fire the OC. We scored 52 points in the game. Should we have scored 70 or 80. What game were you watching. We scored on most of our possessions. The defense is the problem and it is because we are young and playing allot of freshmen. There is nothing else going on here. We have a young defense and we might not win another game this year. I am just glad that we started with the 3 weakest teams on our schedule. Who knows though, maybe we can fix somethings this week and pull one out against Furman next week. I am still a believer in this coaching staff and this team. Much better by far than anything that Dennis Wagner ever put on the field. We are not world beaters but we have good players who will get better as they get more playing time. That is where we are plain and simple. As we spend more money on Football, we will get better each year. I agree. I’m amazed the people who say fire the OC after scoring 52 points. Some people are just clueless, negative or both. If we scored 99 points there’d be people complaining it wasnt a 100. Some people on these boards are the most negative people I’ve talked to. I’m at every home game and travel to almost every away game and most of the crap spewed on these boards is enough to make you just scratch your head about the apparent lack of football knowledge of folks at WCU.
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Post by TimeTraveler on Sept 23, 2018 16:49:30 GMT -5
It is very disheartening. Great crowd, great weather, and a 2-0 start. Then this miserable game. Out played and out coached. I hope we can make our free throws this upcoming B-ball season..... We would have won by 2 scores if the OC had not called the pass play when we were up by 8 with a little more than 4 minutes left in the game. We were able to run the ball consistently the entire second half and we would have probably been able to run the ball, control the clock and add at least a field goal. That was a dumb call and I think we got greedy and decided to surprise everyone and got burned, but if it had worked, we would all be talking about what a great play that was. Also, I was at the game and I hear everyone on this board say we should fire the OC. We scored 52 points in the game. Should we have scored 70 or 80. What game were you watching. We scored on most of our possessions. The defense is the problem and it is because we are young and playing allot of freshmen. There is nothing else going on here. We have a young defense and we might not win another game this year. I am just glad that we started with the 3 weakest teams on our schedule. Who knows though, maybe we can fix somethings this week and pull one out against Furman next week. I am still a believer in this coaching staff and this team. Much better by far than anything that Dennis Wagner ever put on the field. We are not world beaters but we have good players who will get better as they get more playing time. That is where we are plain and simple. As we spend more money on Football, we will get better each year. FL-The voice of reason. 75- Ready to lead a revolt against the administration.(Did 75 lead the revolt against Chancellor Carlton?) Did I slip into an alternate universe? Twilight Zone? Earth shift Axis?
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Sept 23, 2018 17:08:16 GMT -5
We would have won by 2 scores if the OC had not called the pass play when we were up by 8 with a little more than 4 minutes left in the game. We were able to run the ball consistently the entire second half and we would have probably been able to run the ball, control the clock and add at least a field goal. That was a dumb call and I think we got greedy and decided to surprise everyone and got burned, but if it had worked, we would all be talking about what a great play that was. Also, I was at the game and I hear everyone on this board say we should fire the OC. We scored 52 points in the game. Should we have scored 70 or 80. What game were you watching. We scored on most of our possessions. The defense is the problem and it is because we are young and playing allot of freshmen. There is nothing else going on here. We have a young defense and we might not win another game this year. I am just glad that we started with the 3 weakest teams on our schedule. Who knows though, maybe we can fix somethings this week and pull one out against Furman next week. I am still a believer in this coaching staff and this team. Much better by far than anything that Dennis Wagner ever put on the field. We are not world beaters but we have good players who will get better as they get more playing time. That is where we are plain and simple. As we spend more money on Football, we will get better each year. FL-The voice of reason. 75- Ready to lead a revolt against the administration.(Did 75 lead the revolt against Chancellor Carlton?) Did I slip into an alternate universe? Twilight Zone? Earth shift Axis? No alternate universe or Earth Axis Shifting. I just think we should be reasonable about calling for a man's head when his offense scored 52 points. Sure every play did not go for a big gain, but that is not how football works and the reason you run some plays is to set up a play later in the series or later in the game. My wife thinks we should pass every game and when the RB only gains 1 or 2 yards or loses a yard, she says that is a bad play. I explained to her that you have to run those plays to keep the defense honest and that those plays are part of the game plan to set up the defense. If we gain 30 yards in a play, she wonders why we don't just run that play every down. We will be fine and we might win more than we lose this year if we are lucky. I am good with that because I have realistic expectations of our program which is slowly improving. I think I am always reasonable and some people don't like what I am saying because they do not want to rock the boat. If I believe it is true, I post it. I might be wrong, but I think it is correct based on what I see.
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Post by Wcu1 on Sept 23, 2018 17:23:32 GMT -5
Vmi. This is what I would expect, as sad as a play as I've ever seen.
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Post by wcugrad95 on Sept 23, 2018 17:28:46 GMT -5
We scored 46 on offense (6 came on the pick-6). No doubt our D is the issue and the 46 should be more than enough in any game - but especially against a team we were favored by 26. My thought continues to be when you have the ability to run the football like we do, we should absolutely do our best to control the game and try and protect our defense (by keeping the ball). Smack corrected me that the pass was just what Tyrie decided to do on the RPO - he chose to pull the ball and throw it. At the same time, in that situation (and really the entire second half), I think we should have called run play after run play after run play. An occasional shot over the top is fine to keep them honest, but we averaged 6.6 yard per carry for the game.
For perspective, Wofford beat VMI 59-14 and ran for 450 yards. I think we could have run for that many, and if we would have done that and limited them to 2 or 3 fewer possessions we probably win by 17 or 21 points. Our offense is going to have to make up for our defense until they get it figured out.
We had 15 total possessions in this game (2 were end-of-half and end-of-game single plays). Of the other 13, we scored on 7, turned it over on 2, and had 4 punts. Clearly that is very good, but my "fire the OC" post was based on the emotion of throwing the INT that gave VMI a chance to win the game. No doubt I expected them to go score. I am typically accused of being too positive, but this game really got to me. And I feel like I do know a little about football, having played at the college-level (although a very long time ago).
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Post by jim64 on Sept 23, 2018 17:53:03 GMT -5
It is very disheartening. Great crowd, great weather, and a 2-0 start. Then this miserable game. Out played and out coached. I hope we can make our free throws this upcoming B-ball season..... We would have won by 2 scores if the OC had not called the pass play when we were up by 8 with a little more than 4 minutes left in the game. We were able to run the ball consistently the entire second half and we would have probably been able to run the ball, control the clock and add at least a field goal. That was a dumb call and I think we got greedy and decided to surprise everyone and got burned, but if it had worked, we would all be talking about what a great play that was. Also, I was at the game and I hear everyone on this board say we should fire the OC. We scored 52 points in the game. Should we have scored 70 or 80. What game were you watching. We scored on most of our possessions. The defense is the problem and it is because we are young and playing allot of freshmen. There is nothing else going on here. We have a young defense and we might not win another game this year. I am just glad that we started with the 3 weakest teams on our schedule. Who knows though, maybe we can fix somethings this week and pull one out against Furman next week. I am still a believer in this coaching staff and this team. Much better by far than anything that Dennis Wagner ever put on the field. We are not world beaters but we have good players who will get better as they get more playing time. That is where we are plain and simple. As we spend more money on Football, we will get better each year. I think that pass play was completely an Adam’s mistake. According to Smacks’ Son, Adams threw the ball instead of running the ball. I think he had the option to run or pass and he chose the wrong option. We have the best Offensive Line in History & we have great depth in running backs. It is about time for the OC to use this major strength on this team. With a very weak Defensive Team, you need to keep the defense off the field as much as possible by running the ball & controlling the clock. The Spread Offense is a big play offense & not a time consuming offense. Look at last year’s stats, WCU was at the top or near the top in Offensive Stats in the SoCon but finished in 4th place in the Standings. The best running offense won the Conference Championship. We should be running the ball & passing the ball to keep the defense honest. This season we are doing the opposite—using the pass to set up the run instead of running to set up the pass.
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Post by tenNesseeCat on Sept 23, 2018 18:47:01 GMT -5
Maybe it was just me, but I didn't think Tillman(maybe) shoulda been flagged for targeting. Looked like he led with his shoulder. The helmet to helmet looked like it was caused by the force of the hit. Should he have gone low? maybe mid and broke some ribs? Is he supposed to just let the guy make the catch? I don't get it.
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