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Post by The Cats on Jun 28, 2023 14:44:10 GMT -5
If adopted, all FBS schools would be required to provide 90% of the total number of allowable scholarships over a two-year rolling period across at least 16 sports, including football. Schools also would be required to offer at least 210 scholarships each year, amounting to no less than $6 million in athletics scholarships offered.
These requirements would take effect Aug. 1, 2027, for existing FBS members and for schools already transitioning to FBS membership. Moving forward, for schools applying to transition to FBS beginning in 2024-25 and thereafter, the requirements would have to be met by the end of the two-year transition process.
If these requirements are adopted, previously existing requirements for football attendance at FBS schools would be removed, effective immediately.
The council also introduced new legislation that would increase the fee to transition from FCS to FBS from $5,000 to $5 million. If adopted, the change would be effective immediately for schools initiating the transition process from that point forward. The fee would be reassessed regularly.
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Post by wcu72 on Jun 29, 2023 8:17:29 GMT -5
I looks like the NCAA has decided that the FBS is big enough and wants to discourage further growth. I'm sure this puts a big damper on Chattanooga's and ETSU FBS ambitions (if in fact they were thinking about it).
This also creates a problem for the G5 conference, and their pool of potential prospect greatly diminished with a $5 million payout to move up, I'd say the C-USA is the most affected by this (when and if they lose more members).
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Post by catamountalum04 on Jun 29, 2023 9:14:22 GMT -5
5 million! Even if in ten years WCU became a powerhouse in Socon football they would never pay 5 mill to move up
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Jun 29, 2023 9:46:31 GMT -5
5 million! Even if in ten years WCU became a powerhouse in Socon football they would never pay 5 mill to move up It is not in the cards for Western to move up in my lifetime regardless of the entry fee. We need to concentrate on being the best we can be at the level we are at. We have a lot of headroom to get better where we are. We are not even competitive in the SoCon so why worry about moving up. Let’s win more games than we lose and start winning some championships first. |
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Post by wcatradio75 on Jun 30, 2023 10:12:36 GMT -5
5 million! Even if in ten years WCU became a powerhouse in Socon football they would never pay 5 mill to move up It is not in the cards for Western to move up in my lifetime regardless of the entry fee. We need to concentrate on being the best we can be at the level we are at. We have a lot of headroom to get better where we are. We are not even competitive in the SoCon so why worry about moving up. Let’s win more games than we lose and start winning some championships first. NCAA: "Let's not just increase the fee 100% - let's increase it 4000%" Yeah - this is smart. With the decreasing enrollments across the board, let's make it tougher for everyone to compete. I believe the NCAA will not be a viable entity in 10 years. They will price themselves out of existence. The P5 is likely going to leave - which cuts the NCAA income by what - 75%? And with everyone else struggling, it will look like the 60's with about 5 different athletic organizations catering to various regions, sizes, and types of schools: private secular, Christian/religious, and small(er) state schools. |
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Jul 1, 2023 15:48:19 GMT -5
It is not in the cards for Western to move up in my lifetime regardless of the entry fee. We need to concentrate on being the best we can be at the level we are at. We have a lot of headroom to get better where we are. We are not even competitive in the SoCon so why worry about moving up. Let’s win more games than we lose and start winning some championships first. NCAA: "Let's not just increase the fee 100% - let's increase it 4000%" Yeah - this is smart. With the decreasing enrollments across the board, let's make it tougher for everyone to compete. I believe the NCAA will not be a viable entity in 10 years. They will price themselves out of existence. The P5 is likely going to leave - which cuts the NCAA income by what - 75%? And with everyone else struggling, it will look like the 60's with about 5 different athletic organizations catering to various regions, sizes, and types of schools: private secular, Christian/religious, and small(er) state schools. I would be ok with that. P5 and some G5 schools have sold their academic souls to have great intercollegiate football. All schools like Alabama and Carolina are just farm teams for the NFL and NBA. There have been many articles over the years where these large public schools give these kids degrees with easy courses and tudors who write their papers for them. I would love to see the P5 conferences implode on themselves. They do not have student/athletes anymore. FCS is much closer to having true student/athletes that earn their degrees much more than the ACC and ACC and the other P5s. |
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Post by cbyland on Jul 2, 2023 9:55:08 GMT -5
It does stop just any school from just jumping from FCS to FBS without much thought and consideration unless they have the money and decide that its worth it. So if those updated membership requirements do come into effect and stick. I think a lot depends on what the Power 2 (P2) conferences decide. I do not believe there is such a thing as the Power 5 (P5) that is often used to discuss FBS it really is the P2 (SEC and BIG 10) and all others so G8 I will call them. I will not be surprised if in the near future the SEC and BIG 10 continue to grow and continue to pick marquee programs from the Pac 12, Big 12, ACC (example SEC taking Clemson, Florida St and or Miami at some point) Big 10 going after UVA, UNC, Duke and this time Notre Dame in the next 10 years. So I wonder how long this will be effective though.
If that happens, I won't be surprised that the SEC and Big 10 create their own league and then be 3 Division 1 tiers for football (basketball and baseball will probably still have some unity). But then the so called ACC, Big 12, and Pac 12 start taking the best of what is left in the AAC, MWC, Sun Belt etc, and those smaller FBS conferences and those left over teams end up merging with the FCS conferences or the FCS conferences at least being brought to an FBS like merger with them. Again I feel like in Football there is going to be 3 Division 1 subdivisions for football before it is all over.
For WCU though, I don't see why we should move or even consider moving until we "have to" because we need to start learning how to win in our conference to begin with and being successful (and I am not even talking about the financial side) but we haven't truly competed in our conference FCS subdivision to even be able to consider it. Plus, it would be nice if one day WCU starts dominating and becoming the big fish in a small pond. A lot of programs like Marshall (who has had some FBS success) were big fishes in the FCS to be an afterthought little fish in the FBS'd Big Pond.
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