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Post by wcugrad95 on Nov 11, 2018 15:55:55 GMT -5
Not disputing anything here, but did want to post about how Tyrie (good or bad) is our offense. If I am reading the stats correctly, he went over 3000 yards total offense yesterday (2127 passing and 902 net rushing for 3029 total). Can anybody verify where he stands on the all-time list of rushing in a season and a career for a QB? If he somehow gets 98 rushing yards against Carolina will he be the first WCU QB to rush for 1000 yards in a season? He needs 68 yards total offense next week to pass Troy Mitchell's record of 3096 total offensive yards in a season. I know that hasn't meant wins or a playoff birth, but still want to celebrate something and Tyrie's records are one of the few bright spots of the season. He would have smashed the record had he not been injured in 2 games.
All his stats look great but we are going to be 3-8 this season. That stat is the most important stat to me. We are going to finish near the bottom of the Conference Standings this season & we are going to be near the top of the SoCon in offensive stats just like last year. This is another example that Offense does not win championship, it is a strong defense. Jim - I agree, and have stated we need at least a middle-of-the-pack defense and to not straight up lose games due to special teams. I also in my post listed that it wasn't going to translate to more wins or playoff births, but I am trying to at least recognize the 1 really good thing we have had this season. |
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Post by jim64 on Nov 11, 2018 19:58:17 GMT -5
All his stats look great but we are going to be 3-8 this season. That stat is the most important stat to me. We are going to finish near the bottom of the Conference Standings this season & we are going to be near the top of the SoCon in offensive stats just like last year. This is another example that Offense does not win championship, it is a strong defense. Jim - I agree, and have stated we need at least a middle-of-the-pack defense and to not straight up lose games due to special teams. I also in my post listed that it wasn't going to translate to more wins or playoff births, but I am trying to at least recognize the 1 really good thing we have had this season. The entire offense is built around Tyrie & therefore you would expect him to be a Super Star. I probably should not say this but if I was Will Jones, I would look for another school that would use his talents. It is obvious that Glenn is not going to change his offensive strategy. I thought that Glenn was doing a very good job in the first half. However, the 2nd half was a different story. I was very surprised to find out how much money Speir is making to coach WCU. His 215 Thousand $ per year has to be near the top in the SoCon. It appears that ETSU will win the SoCon Championship. Don’t forget Coach Sanders applied for the HC Job at Western and was turned down when Wagner was hired. Sanders has made ETSU a Champion in his 1st year. Now you Speir lovers, compare & contrast Speir with Sanders. |
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Post by Recent Grad on Nov 11, 2018 20:41:42 GMT -5
Jim - I agree, and have stated we need at least a middle-of-the-pack defense and to not straight up lose games due to special teams. I also in my post listed that it wasn't going to translate to more wins or playoff births, but I am trying to at least recognize the 1 really good thing we have had this season. The entire offense is built around Tyrie & therefore you would expect him to be a Super Star. I probably should not say this but if I was Will Jones, I would look for another school that would use his talents. It is obvious that Glenn is not going to change his offensive strategy. I thought that Glenn was doing a very good job in the first half. However, the 2nd half was a different story. I was very surprised to find out how much money Speir is making to coach WCU. His 215 Thousand $ per year has to be near the top in the SoCon. It appears that ETSU will win the SoCon Championship. Don’t forget Coach Sanders applied for the HC Job at Western and was turned down when Wagner was hired. Sanders has made ETSU a Champion in his 1st year. Now you Speir lovers, compare & contrast Speir with Sanders. Actually, Speir is near the bottom in the SoCon. Please, if we are to share opinions, let's be somewhat knowledgeable about our views. |
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Post by wcu72 on Nov 11, 2018 20:53:39 GMT -5
The entire offense is built around Tyrie & therefore you would expect him to be a Super Star. I probably should not say this but if I was Will Jones, I would look for another school that would use his talents. It is obvious that Glenn is not going to change his offensive strategy. I thought that Glenn was doing a very good job in the first half. However, the 2nd half was a different story. I was very surprised to find out how much money Speir is making to coach WCU. His 215 Thousand $ per year has to be near the top in the SoCon. It appears that ETSU will win the SoCon Championship. Don’t forget Coach Sanders applied for the HC Job at Western and was turned down when Wagner was hired. Sanders has made ETSU a Champion in his 1st year. Now you Speir lovers, compare & contrast Speir with Sanders. Actually, Speir is near the bottom in the SoCon. Please, if we are to share opinions, let's be somewhat knowledgeable about our views. Recent Grad, Rather than just calling people out, WHY don't you put a few "facts" out that let us know you are knowledgeable, rather than just more of your "opinions"? So then, to be somewhat knowledgeable, here's something we do know - the Average Annual Institutional Salary per Head Coach (men) in the SoCon: 9- VMI $67,726 8- Wofford $99,120 7- ETSU $109,828 6- Citadel $112,089 5- Samford $113,494 4- Mercer $123,263 3- Western $125,992 2- UTC $147.463 1- Furman $167,362 There is no way the WCU head football coach's salary could be near the bottom of the SoCon, and the avg. annual HC salary at WCU rank 3d in the SoCon. Now give us some facts, not your opinions. |
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Post by jim64 on Nov 11, 2018 21:52:21 GMT -5
The entire offense is built around Tyrie & therefore you would expect him to be a Super Star. I probably should not say this but if I was Will Jones, I would look for another school that would use his talents. It is obvious that Glenn is not going to change his offensive strategy. I thought that Glenn was doing a very good job in the first half. However, the 2nd half was a different story. I was very surprised to find out how much money Speir is making to coach WCU. His 215 Thousand $ per year has to be near the top in the SoCon. It appears that ETSU will win the SoCon Championship. Don’t forget Coach Sanders applied for the HC Job at Western and was turned down when Wagner was hired. Sanders has made ETSU a Champion in his 1st year. Now you Speir lovers, compare & contrast Speir with Sanders. Actually, Speir is near the bottom in the SoCon. Please, if we are to share opinions, let's be somewhat knowledgeable about our views. I think Jerry posted the HC Salaries & Coach Speir was in the top 3. |
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Post by jim64 on Nov 11, 2018 22:04:58 GMT -5
Actually, Speir is near the bottom in the SoCon. Please, if we are to share opinions, let's be somewhat knowledgeable about our views. Recent Grad, Rather than just calling people out, WHY don't you put a few "facts" out that let us know you are knowledgeable, rather than just more of your "opinions"? So then, to be somewhat knowledgeable, here's something we do know - the Average Annual Institutional Salary per Head Coach (men) in the SoCon: 9- VMI $67,726 8- Wofford $99,120 7- ETSU $109,828 6- Citadel $112,089 5- Samford $113,494 4- Mercer $123,263 3- Western $125,992 2- UTC $147.463 1- Furman $167,362 There is no way the WCU head football coach's salary could be near the bottom of the SoCon, and the avg. annual HC salary at WCU rank 3d in the SoCon. Now give us some facts, not your opinions. 72, I don’t know who the RecentGrad is but he seems to be trying to undermine my posts for some reason. If the guy can’t stand me come out & State your bias. RecentGrad comes across as a true millennial. Last time it was about Speirs Contract Extension. He was wrong then & dismissed my comments as not factual. Jerry talked to him about hiding behind a handle & not his real name. Thank you for reposting those salaries. The last info I have found on Coach Speir’s Salary was 215K/year. I forget who posted that amount on this Board. |
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Post by bonsaiburke on Nov 11, 2018 22:28:30 GMT -5
Recent Grad, Rather than just calling people out, WHY don't you put a few "facts" out that let us know you are knowledgeable, rather than just more of your "opinions"? So then, to be somewhat knowledgeable, here's something we do know - the Average Annual Institutional Salary per Head Coach (men) in the SoCon: 9- VMI $67,726 8- Wofford $99,120 7- ETSU $109,828 6- Citadel $112,089 5- Samford $113,494 4- Mercer $123,263 3- Western $125,992 2- UTC $147.463 1- Furman $167,362 There is no way the WCU head football coach's salary could be near the bottom of the SoCon, and the avg. annual HC salary at WCU rank 3d in the SoCon. Now give us some facts, not your opinions. 72, I don’t know who the RecentGrad is but he seems to be trying to undermine my posts for some reason. If the guy can’t stand me come out & State your bias. RecentGrad comes across as a true millennial. Last time it was about Speirs Contract Extension. He was wrong then & dismissed my comments as not factual. Jerry talked to him about hiding behind a handle & not his real name. Thank you for reposting those salaries. The last info I have found on Coach Speir’s Salary was 215K/year. I forget who posted that amount on this Board. Don't call out age groups, it is inappropriate for this forum. |
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Post by wcugrad95 on Nov 12, 2018 1:11:54 GMT -5
Trying to just stick with facts, what Jerry posted is the average across all men's head coaches at SoCon schools. Several of the school's have more sports, and it is no surprise the only head coaches who make any real money are football, basketball, and baseball. So schools with more sports will have their averages drug down.
From other threads and from the NC university system's database, you can see Speir's salary in 2017 was a little over $213k. I don't know where that sits in relation to the other head coaches because the 2 figures aren't apples to apples (1 is specifically Speir's pay and the other numbers are averages across all head coaches at all SoCon schools).
I would imagine the salaries at ETSU and Chattanooga could be found fairly easily, and VMI and Citadel are also public and could also be found with some digging. We probably aren't going to get numbers for the privates outside of some ballpark figures. I did see a thread about Sanders - he is in for some significant bonuses with a playoff appearance, conference championship, etc. I'd say those are going to be well deserved.
But in any case, based on what we know it is impossible to say exactly where Coach Speir's salary fits without more numbers. Just trying to be reasonable and provide some clarity on the numbers that keep getting used.
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Post by wcugamer2 on Nov 12, 2018 9:17:43 GMT -5
It is not an apples to apples comparison, but of the three FCS public schools in the state of NC, Speir has the lowest salary. The other two schools are NC A&T and NC Central, who's head football coaches are paid more than WCU's. This information is public record using the following website: b2.caspio.com/dp/9607300057a2f1855d704861804a |
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Post by jim64 on Nov 12, 2018 12:20:11 GMT -5
It is not an apples to apples comparison, but of the three FCS public schools in the state of NC, Speir has the lowest salary. The other two schools are NC A&T and NC Central, who's head football coaches are paid more than WCU's. This information is public record using the following website: b2.caspio.com/dp/9607300057a2f1855d704861804aIf my memory serves me right, I think A&T had an outstanding record last year and they played in the NCAA Playoffs. Just maybe the Coach at A&T should be paid more than Speir. Speir has won nothing in his 7 years of employment at WCU. It would also be interesting to compare Coach Speir’s Salary with the two previous Coaches at WCU. |
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