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Post by jim68 on Dec 3, 2022 13:26:44 GMT -5
It seems to be raining transfers out of Cullowhee. I totally did not expect to see this volume, it's like we lost a head coach or something... By my count, we're up to 12... I guess people have got to understand that Coach Bell is a hot head & he uses profanity when chewing out his players. I think a lot of this maybe the results of the temperament Coach Bell has demonstrated when dealing with his players. The caliber of recruits that Coach Bell is bringing in will not tolerate his type of browbeating that he has shown in the past. I’m just going to see if we have a lot more players leave the team. If it is some of our best players, that will tell me a lot about Coach Bell.
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Post by catamountalum04 on Dec 3, 2022 13:47:35 GMT -5
Could Davis and Poppi being playing on the same team next year?
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Post by jim68 on Dec 3, 2022 13:49:25 GMT -5
I don’t think he is testing the waters. I am sure he lost his chance to continue on scholarship at Western as soon as he put his name in the portal. I figure he has been approached by a larger school and already knows where he is going. Coach Bell will not let him come back anyway. Most schools/coaches do not allow folks to “test the waters” because they want to discourage the portal. Also, if you make an exception for one player, what message does that send? The word from some people very close to it have said Coach Bell is giving him some time to test it out. I think if I was the Head Coach at WCU I would only recruit P5 or G5 players in the portal. Once these players sign with WCU they can not transfer again. At least this would provide some continuity in the Football Program. Signing freshmen has turned out to be an issue. This also would eliminate the redshirt issue. You just have to adjust to what the NCAA has created. FCS has turned into the minor leagues for the P5 & G5 conferences. This would also have some influence on the Gradtransfer situation. You would not have redshirts playing 3 years & transferring their 4th year of eligibility.
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Post by Speedwell Cat on Dec 3, 2022 13:49:38 GMT -5
Seems like if he were abusive on that level he wouldn't have had the career successes he's had (particularly with a non-scholarship program), and that we'd already have seen an VMI/ETSU-level exodus at Western. 12 players (as of now), mostly non-starters, doesn't seem all that out of hand given the portal weirdness
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Post by jim68 on Dec 3, 2022 15:04:49 GMT -5
Seems like if he were abusive on that level he wouldn't have had the career successes he's had (particularly with a non-scholarship program), and that we'd already have seen an VMI/ETSU-level exodus at Western. 12 players (as of now), mostly non-starters, doesn't seem all that out of hand given the portal weirdness You maybe right but it was reported on this board by one of the posters that he heard Coach Bell tongue lashing the team laced with profanity. Does it not get your attention that the top teams in the SoCon have the least number of players entering the portal? A lot of this is impacted by the type of athletes that are being recruited at WCU.
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Dec 3, 2022 15:11:41 GMT -5
I don’t think he is testing the waters. I am sure he lost his chance to continue on scholarship at Western as soon as he put his name in the portal. I figure he has been approached by a larger school and already knows where he is going. Coach Bell will not let him come back anyway. Most schools/coaches do not allow folks to “test the waters” because they want to discourage the portal. Also, if you make an exception for one player, what message does that send? The word from some people very close to it have said Coach Bell is giving him some time to test it out. I think that is a bad idea. So just certain players can test the waters and others can’t or can everyone test the waters and then come back on scholarship. That makes it tough to recruit. Do you recruit a new person or do you wait to see what a 19 year old wants to do with his life? I disagree with that strategy. Like George Bush said, “You are either for us or against us”. You can’t be half in. It is all or nothing. No exceptions. If you think you can do better then make a decision and try. If you fail, you can’t come back. Good luck and have a nice life.
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Post by catamountfanatic07 on Dec 3, 2022 16:28:48 GMT -5
The word from some people very close to it have said Coach Bell is giving him some time to test it out. I think that is a bad idea. So just certain players can test the waters and others can’t or can everyone test the waters and then come back on scholarship. That makes it tough to recruit. Do you recruit a new person or do you wait to see what a 19 year old wants to do with his life? I disagree with that strategy. Like George Bush said, “You are either for us or against us”. You can’t be half in. It is all or nothing. No exceptions. If you think you can do better then make a decision and try. If you fail, you can’t come back. Good luck and have a nice life. I don’t disagree with you one bit. I think you are either all in or you’re not. My guess is that he is looking for a power five offer, but it may not be worth it if he has to sit out the 1 year
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Post by wcugamer2 on Dec 3, 2022 22:00:55 GMT -5
Like the system or hate it, college athletes are "employees". If they can get a "promotion" by moving up to a G5 or P5 school, it gives the players a better path or shot at a pro career.
Maybe giving them a little latitude to test the waters helps the coach/player relationship and creates some additional trust. I know all of my employees who want higher/better jobs, you have to support that as their boss. Even if that means replacing them.
I hope Poppi returns as he is a proven talent. But if he leaves, we have others who will step up
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Post by tripleoption on Dec 3, 2022 22:06:28 GMT -5
I would rather lose with College Students vs Employees / Free Agents. Many student athletes coming out of HS that would appreciate a College Degree.
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Post by wcugamer2 on Dec 3, 2022 22:09:03 GMT -5
I don't disagree, but just seems to be the way of the world now
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