catman72
Redshirt Freshman
2023 SoCon Football Pick'em Champion & 2022 SoCon Football Pick'em Co-Champion
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Post by catman72 on Nov 30, 2022 16:23:03 GMT -5
Might be a huge mistake but I understand why....I'm sure someone in his family has his ear and again that is fine but with his shoulder problems and at time poor in game decisions and tons of pics he isn't going to find it greener on the other side...He can be a good QB and why not let the shoulder completely heal and then come back in the spring and win the starting job....I'm sure some school will take a chance but again will it be a better situation than Western.....Maybe or Maybe not!!!!!
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Nov 30, 2022 17:59:12 GMT -5
Something is going on with Carlos. Either he is getting bad advice from an adult in his life, been told he is not the starter next year for sure, or a G5 team has reached out and told him they will take him if he enters the portal. This makes no sense if he knows he will have the inside track to start next year. I will say again now that Carlos is leaving that our future QB cannot be on the current roster. We do not have anyone at QB left that can win the SoCon as QB. Just saying it is obvious to many of us. The 2 kids coming in look better than anyone we have on the roster. Probably will be the 3 star guy out of Florida that will be the starter or he will leave after the first year. A 3 star QB is not coming to Western to ride the pine.
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Post by Speedwell Cat on Nov 30, 2022 18:37:13 GMT -5
Might be a huge mistake but I understand why....I'm sure someone in his family has his ear and again that is fine but with his shoulder problems and at time poor in game decisions and tons of pics he isn't going to find it greener on the other side...He can be a good QB and why not let the shoulder completely heal and then come back in the spring and win the starting job....I'm sure some school will take a chance but again will it be a better situation than Western.....Maybe or Maybe not!!!!! If he one year of eligibility left and believes the staff is looking to the future, he might feel like he has to roll the dice.
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Post by tripleoption on Nov 30, 2022 18:46:00 GMT -5
Retention as important as Recruiting
*Transfer Portal *Homesick for Florida and Metro setting *Academic eligibility
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Catback
Redshirt Freshman
The 2022-23 SoCon Football Pick'em Champion
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Post by Catback on Nov 30, 2022 19:29:00 GMT -5
Welp I hope those 2 QB's coming in are going to be good as we will need a backup for our new starting QB /photo/1 Great news. Maybe Speir is trying to get Louisville to pick him up, afterall he recruited him. Now I think we can make a SoCon title run. This news made my day.
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Post by jim68 on Nov 30, 2022 22:29:41 GMT -5
He is the only QB left on the roster that has not declared anything. I believe we’ll enter the recruiting season with only two QBs on the Roster. We all knew this was coming. The only freshman QB that got a chance to prove what he could do in a game was Gonzalez. They all got snaps against Presbyterian but that was it. It would have been nice if some of the others would have gotten a chance to show what they could do in a real game. Not questioning the Bell’s decision but if these guys thought they had a chance to compete for the position, they would have stayed. You don’t leave if you think you will be given a chance. That’s common sense. Gonzalez is from Florida, played at the HS where Coach Bell was head coach years ago and his daddy is Billy Gonzalez, who was the WR coach at UF for years and he and coach Bell know each other well. Also Billy is a great well known recruiter in Florida. I am not saying the kid can’t play or he does not deserve the great chance that he was given. I thought he did a good job. I am saying that it would have been nice to see what some of the other QBs could have done in a game. Especially in games that were not close like Mercer or Citadel. We will never know now. Flacat, I am beginning to realize that the QB situation is out of control with the departure of Carlos. It is starting to look like you have been right all along. Seems like the Cole Gonzales thing might have been a pure case of favoritism after all & had a negative impact on all the QBs. The Cats now have no depth at the quarterback position & you can’t depend on incoming Freshmen to get the job done. Of all the QBs on the roster, you basically have only one QB left. That tells me a lot of what is going on when I thought Sam Cornett was getting screwed by the Bells. I guess it was worth getting all the QBs off the roster by the Bells to please Billy Conzales & his son having no competition at the starting QB position next year. I hope I’m wrong but things just don’t sound right to me. If true, it will make me rethink my feelings for the Bells.
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Post by tripleoption on Nov 30, 2022 22:39:38 GMT -5
We all knew this was coming. The only freshman QB that got a chance to prove what he could do in a game was Gonzalez. They all got snaps against Presbyterian but that was it. It would have been nice if some of the others would have gotten a chance to show what they could do in a real game. Not questioning the Bell’s decision but if these guys thought they had a chance to compete for the position, they would have stayed. You don’t leave if you think you will be given a chance. That’s common sense. Gonzalez is from Florida, played at the HS where Coach Bell was head coach years ago and his daddy is Billy Gonzalez, who was the WR coach at UF for years and he and coach Bell know each other well. Also Billy is a great well known recruiter in Florida. I am not saying the kid can’t play or he does not deserve the great chance that he was given. I thought he did a good job. I am saying that it would have been nice to see what some of the other QBs could have done in a game. Especially in games that were not close like Mercer or Citadel. We will never know now. Flacat, I am beginning to realize that the QB situation is out of control with the departure of Carlos. It is starting to look like you have been right all along. Seems like the Cole Gonzales thing might have been a pure case of favoritism after all & had a negative impact on all the QBs. The Cats now have no depth at the quarterback position & you can’t depend on incoming Freshmen to get the job done. Of all the QBs on the roster, you basically have only one QB left. That tells me a lot of what is going on when I thought Sam Cornett was getting screwed by the Bells. I guess it was worth getting all the QBs off the roster by the Bells to please Billy Conzales & his son having no competition at the starting QB position next year. I hope I’m wrong but things just don’t sound right to me. If true, it will make me rethink my feelings for the Bells. And with The Bell System you can’t just plug-in QB’s like The Citadel did with an inexperienced QB.
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Catback
Redshirt Freshman
The 2022-23 SoCon Football Pick'em Champion
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Post by Catback on Nov 30, 2022 22:54:13 GMT -5
Good grief guys! Let's give coach Bell a little bit more time before we question anything too much and let's realize one thing....Kerwin Bell is a winner! He is not going to quit being that and we just had our first winning season in how many years? We were in most of the games we lost!
We have the most talented group of skill players than I can ever remember. Coach Kerwin Bell is an ole great college QB.....he has no QB problem.
Davis leaving helps Coach Bell win more games next year by making an opening for another QB! Davis not being there has sent the message to our recruits and potentials at QB....that WCU starting QB is leaving ....so that job is open for next year...I would be scared to wager who our QB will be next year, but I am looking forward to it...he is going to be a good one!
Go Cats! We are going to love watching our offense next year!
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Dec 1, 2022 5:57:38 GMT -5
Good grief guys! Let's give coach Bell a little bit more time before we question anything too much and let's realize one thing....Kerwin Bell is a winner! He is not going to quit being that and we just had our first winning season in how many years? We were in most of the games we lost! We have the most talented group of skill players than I can ever remember. Coach Kerwin Bell is an ole great college QB.....he has no QB problem. Davis leaving helps Coach Bell win more games next year by making an opening for another QB! Davis not being there has sent the message to our recruits and potentials at QB....that WCU starting QB is leaving ....so that job is open for next year...I would be scared to wager who our QB will be next year, but I am looking forward to it...he is going to be a good one! Go Cats! We are going to love watching our offense next year! I don’t disagree that Coach Bell has won more than he has lost and is a winner, but you have to admit that we now have no depth at QB and Coach Bell has told us that his offense is complicated and takes a while to learn. Per Coach Bell, Cornett was in the lead to be the backup up until August of last year and he got hurt for 8 days and because of that, he fell behind Gonzalez in learning the offense. I will predict the future and let you know now that the starting QB next year will be Cole Gonzalez. It is Coach Bells job to win championships as he says that is the goal so he better be picking the most talented athletic QB and not a project, or there will be no championships. It does not affect me one way or the other who Western Carolina’s starting QB is, but it is concerning that all of the QBs leave but 2 including the starter as soon as the season ends. To the casual observer, with Carlos leaving, it points to a potential issue in the QB room. Coach Bell owns this and he should run his team any way that he sees fit, but I will expect championships as promised and as a fan, I will hold the Bells to the rhetoric. At this time, I have no reason to doubt that Coach Bell will win championships as he has promised and I like all Catamount fans will be holding him to his promise. Until we see the championship, it is all talk. I see progress so far and I support the Bells but I will continue to watch what happens and question things that do not add up.
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Post by LCACAT on Dec 1, 2022 8:34:24 GMT -5
We all knew this was coming. The only freshman QB that got a chance to prove what he could do in a game was Gonzalez. They all got snaps against Presbyterian but that was it. It would have been nice if some of the others would have gotten a chance to show what they could do in a real game. Not questioning the Bell’s decision but if these guys thought they had a chance to compete for the position, they would have stayed. You don’t leave if you think you will be given a chance. That’s common sense. Gonzalez is from Florida, played at the HS where Coach Bell was head coach years ago and his daddy is Billy Gonzalez, who was the WR coach at UF for years and he and coach Bell know each other well. Also Billy is a great well known recruiter in Florida. I am not saying the kid can’t play or he does not deserve the great chance that he was given. I thought he did a good job. I am saying that it would have been nice to see what some of the other QBs could have done in a game. Especially in games that were not close like Mercer or Citadel. We will never know now. Flacat, I am beginning to realize that the QB situation is out of control with the departure of Carlos. It is starting to look like you have been right all along. Seems like the Cole Gonzales thing might have been a pure case of favoritism after all & had a negative impact on all the QBs. The Cats now have no depth at the quarterback position & you can’t depend on incoming Freshmen to get the job done. Of all the QBs on the roster, you basically have only one QB left. That tells me a lot of what is going on when I thought Sam Cornett was getting screwed by the Bells. I guess it was worth getting all the QBs off the roster by the Bells to please Billy Conzales & his son having no competition at the starting QB position next year. I hope I’m wrong but things just don’t sound right to me. If true, it will make me rethink my feelings for the Bells. ALL the QB's you are referring to, how many were walk on's or partial scholarships? The Cornett kid of those that left was the only one on full, if I'm wrong please correct me. Not sure where Carlos is getting advice from, but with his inconsistent play and injuries, not sure who will take him.
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