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Post by catamountalum04 on Oct 6, 2018 20:49:37 GMT -5
Thank you as a players father admitting that it will most likely not be getting better. I do not have a kid on the team but i think anyone who knows football and has watched every game this year that the team is going backwards esp the D. It gets worse and worse every game. I know Mark and the coaches can see the decline and I know they will not say it publicly but I have to wonder what pep talk you can give the kids when they don't have to be told they are sucking. There is no way the defensive players esp the secondary can think they are doing a good job. It is not a secret but i do wonder what the players are saying to each other in the locker room about each others play. The coaches don’t fumble, they don’t tackle, and they don’t throw the ball.... I get it, but they put a QB out there who has an injury, I get it he wants to play. Tyrie has a significant injury and wasn’t going to play today. Had zero to do with our first TO, but the other two, were directly related to him being injured IMHO. That is on coaches. We stunk today and made a bad D look decent. Jones went out and competed. RapidPulse what exactly do you want the OL to do? Our blocking concept is RPO based offense, I hate it. I’m a Dad of one, but what am I missing? I know that is one group that puts the blame on themselves after every loss. Hopefully #63 is ok. We got our ass whipped and I don’t see it improving. I’m #72’s Dad, some know that already, but I don’t want to hide behind a screen name while criticizing folks. I’ll be at the rest of the games. Love that whole group of young men.
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Post by catamountalum1974 on Oct 7, 2018 5:36:18 GMT -5
A year or so back I posted on here and was told I was nuts. I will say it again. This is 2018 not the 70's. Kids have changed. No longer can we depend on the kids we used to recruit. Young men of today, quality players, want to play for program with a winning tradition. They do not want to go "build" a program in the isolation of Cullowhee. We have to have a staff that can relate to players from other backgrounds. No more of this good old boy mountain crap. Kids need someone they can believe in.
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Oct 7, 2018 6:37:45 GMT -5
A year or so back I posted on here and was told I was nuts. I will say it again. This is 2018 not the 70's. Kids have changed. No longer can we depend on the kids we used to recruit. Young men of today, quality players, want to play for program with a winning tradition. They do not want to go "build" a program in the isolation of Cullowhee. We have to have a staff that can relate to players from other backgrounds. No more of this good old boy mountain crap. Kids need someone they can believe in. What is your point? What is mountain crap? Are you saying that none of our coaches can relate to any of kids playing football out there? Who can we get to be coach that kids will believe in? What other backgrounds of recruits are our coaches incapable of relating to? Are you saying all kids are the same and all kids want the same thing? Football programs are built and unfortunately when Coach Speir took over the program was in the "Censored Word"ter and had been for 30 years. I have a memory and I know what Coach Speir has accomplished. We are still not where we need to be but with the proper resources we will eventually get to where we want to be. Everyone on this board knows that we are at or near the bottom in financial support from the university leaders. Lack of financial support for football clearly 100 percent falls at the feet of the leadership in the Robinson building. How do you expect Western football to be at the top of the conference every year when this administration and all prior administrations have not done their job to properly fund a D1 football program? Coach Speir and his staff are achieving despite the financial limitations put on them by the university administration. If you want to complain, fire the Chancellor and the BOT and put in someone who gives a sh-t about football and knows what a winning team can do for our university. This is 100 percent fixable but all of our ire should be directed toward our incompetent leadership past and present who have refused to make football a priority.
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Post by wcu72 on Oct 7, 2018 7:36:53 GMT -5
I'm not sure we can hire an experienced coach who can assemble a solid staff with what our administration will play. It is going to be a shot in the dark. I'm sure our play level for a head football coach is at the low end of FBS schools and what we pay assistants is at the rock bottom level. Nothing is going to change at WCU, except the attendance the rest of the season. I'd expect a major drop with two road losses and the students on break. If they put in 5k, I'll be amazed. No, there is not enough dollars in the athletic program bank to hire an experienced, proven head coach, certainly not enough to attract and hold decent assistant coaches. I just get tired of the current coaching staff blowing smoke up everyone's butt with all those "we'll fix this and we'll fix that" interviews. This team has progressively looked worse during the course of the last 6 weeks. By the end of the season, I'm not sure what will take the field in the Catamount uniforms, but the problems rest squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff and the head coach, the talent is on the team, the problem is the staff. It must be a coach's hell to be able to recruit talent, then not know how to use and coach it.
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Post by WesternFan on Oct 7, 2018 14:41:36 GMT -5
Does anyone else remember back in 2007, when the Cats lost to Appalachian State by a final score of 35-79 in front of almost 28 thousand fans in Boone?
Yesterday felt like that.
Only two differences, 25 thousand fewer fans, and the WCU head coach will still have his job at the end of the season.
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Post by wcugamer2 on Oct 7, 2018 15:12:31 GMT -5
I remember that game in Boone all too well. I had the same thought yesterday after the Samford game. We got took out back of the wood shed like I haven't seen in a long time.
Also, felt like the Chatt game from 2014 at home, when we thought we were competing for a SoCon championship. We got our teeth kicked in that day too.
The biggest question I have is not about the players, but how do our coaches respond? Have they learned any lessons from past failures? I don't think it is on our team to "mature as players" as much as it is on our coaches to grow up in their abilities to lead
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Post by CharlotteCat on Oct 7, 2018 15:29:52 GMT -5
The biggest question I have is not about the players, but how do our coaches respond? Have they learned any lessons from past failures? I don't think it is on our team to "mature as players" as much as it is on our coaches to grow up in their abilities to lead I agree it's not about the players. It's about the coaches, however if after 7 seasons, it has not happened, it's not going to happen.
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Post by Lenoir Cat on Oct 7, 2018 15:32:46 GMT -5
It was a total team loss - coaches and players... Coaches will need to respond but so do the players... Someone from the players has step up and be a leader... Hold your teammates accountable... I am almost positive that there is no one on the team (coaches and players) who are not embarrassed and angry with the performance yesterday, and you could even say the entire season... That is all behind us now - we have to move forward and learn from our mistakes... No time for pointing fingers... We also need to learn to play with a "chip on our shoulder"... Skip Smith I remember that game in Boone all too well. I had the same thought yesterday after the Samford game. We got took out back of the wood shed like I haven't seen in a long time. Also, felt like the Chatt game from 2014 at home, when we thought we were competing for a SoCon championship. We got our teeth kicked in that day too. The biggest question I have is not about the players, but how do our coaches respond? Have they learned any lessons from past failures? I don't think it is on our team to "mature as players" as much as it is on our coaches to grow up in their abilities to lead
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Post by gocats18 on Oct 7, 2018 16:03:21 GMT -5
Has anyone seen the post game interview? I haven't seen it posted anywhere.
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Post by wcu72 on Oct 7, 2018 18:58:35 GMT -5
That is all behind us now - we have to move forward and learn from our mistakes... No time for pointing fingers... We also need to learn to play with a "chip on our shoulder"... That sounds a lot like, "just wait until next year" crap that we've heard for over 40 years. There is certainly time for finger pointing. This HC coach and staff were called out 5 years ago, but all the majority on the board could only repeat year after year...."they are young".... "give them time to recruit their players"..... "give them time to develop"......" national champs at a different school"....."beat Michigan" at a different school..... Well, it's been 7 years now, all those old arguments don't hold up (never did). If the coaching staff is not competent enough to teach and correct the mistakes both the coaches and players have made, there is no way to move forward. The coaches have "lost" their team, they don't believe the "smoke that is being blown from the coaches" anymore. Is it going to take the team losing the remainder of the games this season to realize this? Well, hold on, that is where this team is headed.
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