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Post by wcatradio75 on Mar 11, 2024 16:02:45 GMT -5
There are about 20 D1 coaches that have either been fired or retired SO FAR this spring. That creates lot of openings for coaches on their way up. In the mid majors, there aren’t many Furmans that can afford to keep a coach from moving to a better school. Furman is the only school in the conference to have a coach hired before 2020. Mercer had Garyhired in 2019, but he got fired today. I predict most coaches in SoCon will either be mediocre and stay as long as the school lets them, bad and get fired, or do well and move on. Bucky is a potential long-term at Samford because they have Furman kind of money.
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Post by catamountalum04 on Mar 11, 2024 16:09:09 GMT -5
Those in the know say she does not like Cullowhee. I asked the question in my post but I already knew the answer, an answer that Coach Gray had given me directly more than a year before, "She's a city girl." Yep. I was told the same thing by him at a CC event
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Post by catamountalum04 on Mar 11, 2024 16:10:55 GMT -5
There are about 20 D1 coaches that have either been fired or retired SO FAR this spring. That creates lot of openings for coaches on their way up. In the mid majors, there aren’t many Furmans that can afford to keep a coach from moving to a better school. Furman is the only school in the conference to have a coach hired before 2020. Mercer had Garyhired in 2019, but he got fired today. I predict most coaches in SoCon will either be mediocre and stay as long as the school lets them, bad and get fired, or do well and move on. Bucky is a potential long-term at Samford because they have Furman kind of money. Yep. Furman and Samford are printing money so thier coaches are prob staying now the public schools on the other hand might as well open the gates if they get a good coach since they will stay AT MOST 3 years.
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Post by The Cats on Mar 11, 2024 16:35:22 GMT -5
I asked the question in my post but I already knew the answer, an answer that Coach Gray had given me directly more than a year before, "She's a city girl." Yep. I was told the same thing by him at a CC event Well, she's going to be in the big city now, Conway's population is 25k.... hope she enjoys it..
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Post by retiredcat on Mar 11, 2024 16:42:17 GMT -5
She will not be living in Conway....They will live somewhere on the Grand Strand.
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Post by The Cats on Mar 11, 2024 16:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by retiredcat on Mar 11, 2024 19:51:33 GMT -5
Those statistics probably include coaching staff changes which, at WCU, has been off the chart in the past 20 years. But, our turnover rate in the athletics staff category is also unusually high. The reasons for the high turnover rate...there are many... which standout in my mind. One, a lot of non-coaches in the world of college athletics want to get into college athletics because of what they see on TV and think that with all the perceived glamour and money that is generated that there is a pot of gold awaiting them. Many soon find out that after starting out at the salary level of public school teachers and bankers, their salary advancement is much slower on our level than their fellow college grads in the business world. On our level, especially at state institutions, the administrators are always struggling to balance budgets because of required hirings, lack of sustained success on the playing venues, constant rising scholarship costs, higher salaries for coaches and the demands of facilities upgrades. Also, rarely is there an surge in revenue from ticket sales and fund raising, The billions that the networks payout never reaches our level. So, those frustrated entry level support staffers apply for open position slots at ACC and SEC schools which have seven multi-million dollar revenue football games annually and 50 million dollar check coming in each year from ESPN, ABC, CBS, etc. On-line betting is supposed to produce $300,000 to $500,000 this year and more later...which is only keep up with inflation, at best. As far as coaches, WCU...since the early 90s, has been a stopping off point for assistants till they can double their salary on the next level.
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Post by wcu1995gocats on Mar 11, 2024 20:45:27 GMT -5
Those statistics probably include coaching staff changes which, at WCU, has been off the chart in the past 20 years. But, our turnover rate in the athletics staff category is also unusually high. The reasons for the high turnover rate...there are many... which standout in my mind. One, a lot of non-coaches in the world of college athletics want to get into college athletics because of what they see on TV and think that with all the perceived glamour and money that is generated that there is a pot of gold awaiting them. Many soon find out that after starting out at the salary level of public school teachers and bankers, their salary advancement is much slower on our level than their fellow college grads in the business world. On our level, especially at state institutions, the administrators are always struggling to balance budgets because of required hirings, lack of sustained success on the playing venues, constant rising scholarship costs, higher salaries for coaches and the demands of facilities upgrades. Also, rarely is there an surge in revenue from ticket sales and fund raising, The billions that the networks payout never reaches our level. So, those frustrated entry level support staffers apply for open position slots at ACC and SEC schools which have seven multi-million dollar revenue football games annually and 50 million dollar check coming in each year from ESPN, ABC, CBS, etc. On-line betting is supposed to produce $300,000 to $500,000 this year and more later...which is only keep up with inflation, at best. As far as coaches, WCU...since the early 90s, has been a stopping off point for assistants till they can double their salary on the next level. Or it’s because of poor leadership…. Obviously if that was the reason WCU wouldn’t have the highest turnover in D1 Athletics. That would be every mid major or FCS school. Look At Chattanooga, they have at least five people who left WCU to go there. Obviously not jumping because their business degree friends make more money. There might be a reason Catamounts like Gorham Bradley don’t come around anymore… Look at our Alumni Office….they obviously didn't leave for more money. They just transferred out. At some point as people who care about WCU we have to start noticing this isn’t the “norm” anymore.
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Post by catamountalum04 on Mar 11, 2024 22:12:49 GMT -5
Those statistics probably include coaching staff changes which, at WCU, has been off the chart in the past 20 years. But, our turnover rate in the athletics staff category is also unusually high. The reasons for the high turnover rate...there are many... which standout in my mind. One, a lot of non-coaches in the world of college athletics want to get into college athletics because of what they see on TV and think that with all the perceived glamour and money that is generated that there is a pot of gold awaiting them. Many soon find out that after starting out at the salary level of public school teachers and bankers, their salary advancement is much slower on our level than their fellow college grads in the business world. On our level, especially at state institutions, the administrators are always struggling to balance budgets because of required hirings, lack of sustained success on the playing venues, constant rising scholarship costs, higher salaries for coaches and the demands of facilities upgrades. Also, rarely is there an surge in revenue from ticket sales and fund raising, The billions that the networks payout never reaches our level. So, those frustrated entry level support staffers apply for open position slots at ACC and SEC schools which have seven multi-million dollar revenue football games annually and 50 million dollar check coming in each year from ESPN, ABC, CBS, etc. On-line betting is supposed to produce $300,000 to $500,000 this year and more later...which is only keep up with inflation, at best. As far as coaches, WCU...since the early 90s, has been a stopping off point for assistants till they can double their salary on the next level. Or it’s because of poor leadership…. Obviously if that was the reason WCU wouldn’t have the highest turnover in D1 Athletics. That would be every mid major or FCS school. Look At Chattanooga, they have at least five people who left WCU to go there. Obviously not jumping because their business degree friends make more money. There might be a reason Catamounts like Gorham Bradley don’t come around anymore… Look at our Alumni Office….they obviously didn't leave for more money. They just transferred out. At some point as people who care about WCU we have to start noticing this isn’t the “norm” anymore. Gotta call a spade a spade sometimes. You are right in the fact that I have not seen Gorham around in a long time
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Post by catamountfanatic07 on Mar 11, 2024 23:09:08 GMT -5
Most of the time she’s overseas, but as most of us know Myrtle Beach and Conway are not exactly destinations cities. Myrtle Beach is now a cesspool of gangs and thuggery, and common way is not much better from what I understand, but if you don’t like the mountains, you don’t like the mountains.
The sky is not falling and we will be fine. With our budgets and the way college sports are now, this is going to be the norm going forward.
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