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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 29, 2018 12:27:11 GMT -5 LCACAT likes this

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Post by The Cats on Oct 29, 2018 12:27:11 GMT -5

For the ninth game of the season, the Cats return to the friendly confines of E.J. Whitmire Stadium to host the Bulldogs of The Citadel for Homecoming 2018.

Western faces the Bulldogs for the forty-third time since 1972.

The Citadel

When: Saturday, November 3 at 3:30 pm
Where: E.J. Whitmire Stadium, Cullowhee, NC
Radio: Catamount Sports Network
- Talent: Play-by-Play: Gary Ayers; Color Analyst: Greg McLamb; Host / Producer: Jeff Bryson
TV/video: ESPN+
- Talent: Play-by-Play: Daniel Hooker; Color Analyst: Daniel Gibson
Game Notes : WCU - The Citadel
Message Board: The Citadel Independent Sports Network

The Series: Western trails The Citadel 17-24-1 overall in the series. After winning on the road in Charleston last season, the Cats broke a two-game skid to the Bulldogs. Coach Speir is currently 2-4 against vs. the Citadel.

Games played by the Bulldogs this season prior to the WCU contest: (8 games) The Bulldogs kicked off the season with an opening conference loss at Wofford (21-28), followed by another loss against the Mocs in Charleston (28-29). Week three was a win vs. Mercer in Macon (38-31).followed by an OOC game loss vs. Towson (27-44). A loss to ETSU followed (23-26), then a win over the Keydets of VMI (34-32). The Dogs then lost to Furman (17-28).

Last Season's Game vs. The Citadel (Nov. 14, 2017) - Catamount Football Scores Road Win at The Citadel, 31-19 - Senior running back Detrez Newsome broke Saturday's third tie with an 81-yard touchdown romp to cap a one-play scoring drive that gave No. 24 Western Carolina a lead it would never relinquish as the Catamounts scored a 31-19 Southern Conference road victory over The Citadel Bulldogs in Southern Conference action at Johnson Hagood Stadium. Redshirt sophomore QB Tyrie Adams threw for three touchdowns - two to redshirt senior WR Terryon Robinson - and Newsome rushed for 197 yards as the Catamounts picked up their seventh victory of the season - fifth in league play.

The Citadel's 2017 Record: 5-6 overall, 2-3 home, 3-3 away, 3-5 SoCon
The Citadel's 2018 Record: 2-5 overall, 0-3 home, 2-2 away, 2-4 SoCon

Offensive Formation: Triple Option
Defensive Formation: Multiple
Starters returning/lost: 15 / 7
Offensive starters - Returning/Lost: 9 / 2
Defensive starters - Returning/Lost: 6 / 5
Specialist - Returning/Lost: 5 / 5
Losses on 2-Deep Roster: 9

Significant Losses:
Offense: QB Dominique Allen; A-BACK Cam Jackson
Defense: DT Jonathan King; LB Myles Pierce; CB Tyus Carter; FS Kailik Williams; CB Ben Roberts
Returning: All-SoCon center - Tyler Davis; All SoCon safety Aaron Spann; All SoCon defensive end Ja'Lon Williams; All SoCon left guard Jon Barrett Lewis; All Son right guard Jonathan Lewis; and All SoCon B-Back Brandon Rainey

The 2-5 Bulldogs will be looking to solve some of the offensive woes against the perceived weak defensive unit of the Catamounts, they play to play "keep away" from the high scoring offensive unit of the Cats. Currently, the Bulldogs are 5th in scoring offense in the SoCon, scoring an average of 26.9 ppg (WCU is 3d at 34.2 ppg), the Bulldog defense is also in 5th place holding opponents at 31.1 ppg (the Cats are 8th at 40.8 ppg). The Citadel is in second place in rushing offense, averaging 264.4 yards per game (WCU is 3d at 224 ypg), and the dogs are in 4th place in rushing defense, holding teams to 155 ypg (Cats are in 7th at 192.2 ypg). In pass offense, the dogs come in 9th place at 103.3 yards gained per game (Cats are 4th at 262.5 ypg) while the dogs are in 5th place in pass defense giving up 250 yards per game (the Cats are in last place in pass defense, giving up 296.9 ypg).

2018 The Citadel Statistics (8 games):
Rushing Offense: 1851 yards
Yards per game: 264.4
Yards per rush: 4.4 yards
Rushing 1st downs: 94
TDs rushing: 19
Passing Offense: 732 yards or 103.3 yards per game
Avg. per pass: 7.8 yards
Passing 1st downs: 28
Passing Comp-Att-Int: 41-93-4
TDs Passing: 3
Total Offense: 2574 yards or 367.7 yards per game
Fumbles-Lost: 7 - 5
3d Down Conversions: 49 of 119 (41%)
4th Down Conversions: 19 of 32 (59%)
Field goal attempts: 7 - 8
PAT-Attempts: 23 of 23 (100%)
On-side kicks: 0-1
Red Zone Scores: 18 of 21 (86%)
Red Zone Touchdowns: 13 of 21 (62%)
Punts-Yards: 29 - 1259 - Avg per punt: 43.4

Game prediction: Per the Massey Ratings, the Cats have a 41% probability of winning (35-38) over the Bulldogs. According to Massey, Western Carolina should be 3-6 after this game. I'm going to disagree, the Cats are 4-5 after this game.

Last Edit: Oct 31, 2018 11:30:49 GMT -5 by The Cats

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 29, 2018 14:07:55 GMT -5

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Post by LCACAT on Oct 29, 2018 14:07:55 GMT -5

Weather is certainly looking great, especially after last year's Homecoming Monsoon. The Camp Lab lot will be packed as the Greek's of the 70's & 80's will be back for a long Wheekend. Looks like the Catamount Club Greek Challenge will again bring in Big Bucks, hopefully more than last year's $800,000 plus giving, which was more than half of last year's Club total and a total of $2.8 million over the 4 year life of the Greek Challenge. The school better stop putting so many restrictions on the current active Greeks or that money well will dry up.

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Last Edit: Oct 29, 2018 14:39:56 GMT -5 by LCACAT

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 29, 2018 15:26:51 GMT -5

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from the Citadel board......

Dogs Travel to the 'Whee to Meet western in a Gut Check Game..... I Hope to see the Regular Road Warriors There Plus a Few......The Team Needs to See some Fan Support, They Know What The Record Is.

Last Edit: Oct 29, 2018 15:28:22 GMT -5 by The Cats

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 29, 2018 20:40:26 GMT -5 LCACAT likes this

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Post by catamountalum04 on Oct 29, 2018 20:40:26 GMT -5

What is Western doing now in regards to restrictions on greeks?

Oct 29, 2018 14:07:55 GMT -5 LCACAT said:

Weather is certainly looking great, especially after last year's Homecoming Monsoon. The Camp Lab lot will be packed as the Greek's of the 70's & 80's will be back for a long Wheekend. Looks like the Catamount Club Greek Challenge will again bring in Big Bucks, hopefully more than last year's $800,000 plus giving, which was more than half of last year's Club total and a total of $2.8 million over the 4 year life of the Greek Challenge. The school better stop putting so many restrictions on the current active Greeks or that money well will dry up.

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 30, 2018 7:52:29 GMT -5

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Post by LCACAT on Oct 30, 2018 7:52:29 GMT -5

They restrict off campus houses, Greeks must have approval for parties, restrictions on Rush, the list is fairly long. It's extremely hard for Fraternities to be strong like they once were at Western. The school loves our money, but they do little to support the active chapters and one of these days it's really going to hit them in the wallet as Greek Alumni are very generous to WCU.

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 30, 2018 12:02:58 GMT -5

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Post by catamountalum04 on Oct 30, 2018 12:02:58 GMT -5

Since it has been a bit since i was up there but how can the school even tell the chapters where they can have a house or when they can even have a party? Do other schools in NC do this in regards to control?

Oct 30, 2018 7:52:29 GMT -5 LCACAT said:

They restrict off campus houses, Greeks must have approval for parties, restrictions on Rush, the list is fairly long. It's extremely hard for Fraternities to be strong like they once were at Western. The school loves our money, but they do little to support the active chapters and one of these days it's really going to hit them in the wallet as Greek Alumni are very generous to WCU.

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 30, 2018 13:33:56 GMT -5

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Post by wcugrad95 on Oct 30, 2018 13:33:56 GMT -5

They can restrict them because the housing is now on-campus and university controlled. Having a party would be like trying to host a party on any floor of a dorm.

Long gone are the days where the big house parties take place. When I was there, one of my best friends was the President of Sigma Chi. They had an old, run-down house that nobody lived in that was ONLY for throwing parties!!! I'd also frequently see professors out on the porch at parties in the old Lamda Chi house.

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 30, 2018 19:37:00 GMT -5

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Post by The Cats on Oct 30, 2018 19:37:00 GMT -5

Courtesy Samford's SU Dog

For Entertainment Purposes ONLY!

Tusculum @ VMI - Keydets by 15 points.
The Citadel @ Western Carolina - Bellhops by 2.5 points.
ETSU @ Mercer - Bears by 4.5 points.
UTC @ Furman - Paladins by 4.5 points.
Wofford @ SAMFORD - Bulldogs by 7 points.

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Massey has the Dogs by 3 over the Cats, 35-38

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 30, 2018 20:15:08 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by wcugrad95 on Oct 30, 2018 20:15:08 GMT -5

Kind of a statistical oddity, but in every other SoCon game the percieved underdog (in regards to records) is favored. Ours is more of a pick 'em kind of game at less than 3 points, but percentage-wise we have a better record since Citadel had a game cancelled (3-5 > 2-5).

Also, every home team is favored except the Cats. Really hope the team comes out ready and doesn't let up - these guys deserve a win after last week's heartbreaking/nightmare ending.

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Game #9: The Citadel Oct 31, 2018 9:02:33 GMT -5

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Post by The Cats on Oct 31, 2018 9:02:33 GMT -5

Afterwards (the Furman game), Brent Thompson was as angry as he’d ever been in 30 games as the Bulldogs’ head coach.

“I’m tired of it,” Thompson said after The Citadel dropped to 2-5 overall, 2-4 in the Southern Conference. “I’m over it. I’m tired of standing up here saying we’re in every single ball game, we’re just not winning. I’m tired of losing.”

www.postandcourier.com/sports/as-close-losses-mount-so-does-frustration-for-citadel-football/article_3a1e21a2-dc86-11e8-9133-df39fd29b09c.html

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“If you want something you’ve never had, you must be willing to do something you’ve never done.” —Thomas Jefferson