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Post by wcugamer2 on Oct 28, 2018 16:01:28 GMT -5
Until this year, football was fundex at half in-state and half out-of-state on scholarships. The privates are literally 100% out of state as they only have one price. I "think" Chatty is funded 100% out of state, unsure of others. Given that, how can you question the success Speir has had at WCU? If you think we can compete with half the squad from NC, we can agree to disagree! If I’m getting this right, you think NC isn’t providing enough talent to recruit? Over 60% of kids play in-state ball in NC. Apps roster...47% North Carolina players. Irrelevant jib-jab. Next excuse? It is a matter of monetary funding, not where the kids are actually from. If we can get 100% out of state funding, this means we have extra dollars in the athletic budget, as out of state tuition rates are higher than in state rates
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Post by smack1212 on Oct 28, 2018 16:18:33 GMT -5
Mtncat OL should be fine. Grady will be the most experienced. Harper and 51 have typically gotten a series or two, Harper started 2 games when Grady was out. Backups are big and will be good according to my son.
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Post by Lenoir Cat on Oct 28, 2018 17:03:15 GMT -5
Mtncat OL should be fine. Grady will be the most experienced. Harper and 51 have typically gotten a series or two, Harper started 2 games when Grady was out. Backups are big and will be good according to my son. Your son is having a really strong year! Really like watching the OL play together!
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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2018 18:11:06 GMT -5
To Recent Grad
If you continue in this line of insults, not only will you be censored, you will be banned (your IP address).
I will also return the board to members only posting. If you want to screw everybody, just continue with your insults. Most folks on this board know who Jim is, so he states his opinions out in public, but I see you like to do your insulting behind a screen name, as a "guest".
People on this board can express their opinions, good or bad about the quality of the coaching staff. They shouldn't have to worry about being insulted for their opinions. You've also provided little of, in your own term "FACTS" to back up what you say, so let's quit with the bolster.
-Jerry
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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2018 18:26:46 GMT -5
We have plenty of depth on Offense & very little on defense. I’m sorry you have not connected that to Speir. We are looking at another loosing season this year. How many more years do you think it will take Coach Speir to turn things around at WCU? I also think it is a joke for the AD to keep giving unjustified contract extensions to HC’s in Football & Basketball. No matter how bad the Football Program becomes in the next 2 years, Eaton can’t do anything about it because Coach Speir has a 2 year extension on his contract. What a convenient excuse to do nothing. I can't find the thread that posted the records for WCU football on but I can guarantee during Coach Waters reign that you take out the 1969, 1974, 1983 and 1984 seasons, there were a ton of 4-7, 5-6, 6-5 and 7-5 seasons... There are seasons where we had only 2 or 3 wins... This is in no way saying that Coach Waters is not the greatest coach WCU ever had but just to offer some reality... Even when our record dipped a little, we always seemed to rebound... You take away the first years of Coach Speirs time in Cullowhee and you will find his record is very comparable... Also, we have never won a SoCon championship (although I would argue that the 1983 team was the true champion!)... Lastly we all need to remember that while there are literally a handful of us that post, there are tons of other eyes scanning these boards... Some of these eyes could be current players... Some could be recruits... We are ALL frustrated... We ALL want WCU to win in any amd everygame they play... We ALL want championships... We should always remember that... Skip Maybe the thread you were looking for is this one, catamount.boards.net/thread/7957/inside-insightYou'll have to scroll down a few posts to find the post with the coaches records.
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Post by jim64 on Oct 28, 2018 18:38:14 GMT -5
To Recent Grad If you continue in this line of insults, not only will you be censored, you will be banned (your IP address). I will also return the board to members only posting. If you want to screw everybody, just continue with your insults. Most folks on this board know who Jim is, so he states his opinions out in public, but I see you like to do your insulting behind a screen name, as a "guest". People on this board can express their opinions, good or bad about the quality of the coaching staff. They shouldn't have to worry about being insulted for their opinions. You've also provided little of, in your own term "FACTS" to back up what you say, so let's quit with the bolster. -Jerry Jerry, thank you for trying to keep this board civil. I don’t know who this recent grad is or what personal beef he has with me. However, for the record & for the recent grad, Coach Speir was granted a 4 year extension to his current contract at that time on July 1, 2016 to last to June 2020. This info was published in the ASHEVILLE Citizen at the time the BOT agreed to the extension. Not sure where recent grad got his info.
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Oct 28, 2018 18:41:52 GMT -5
We are getting better and this team is getting close. I don't believe that any of our coaches should or will get fired. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Coach Wiley is a winner and has won everywhere he has gone. We have some good athletes. I don't know how you can fault the OC. We are scoring enough points to win in just about every game. The problem is the young defense. The problem is not a young defense. It is how Coach Speir has recruited for the past 7 years. He has loaded up on the Offensive Side of the ball & not recruited well on the defensive side of the ball. Western may turn out to be the number 1 offensive team in the SoCon but will finish last or next to last in the SoCon Standings. Remember, Offense sells tickets & defense wins Championships. In the NFL, the team with the best Defense usually wins the Super Bowl. Lack of Recruiting & Depth on the Defensive Side of the ball is directly linked to Coach Speir. He is using the same template that App State used 10 years ago & it is not working. Tyrie Adams is an outstanding player & he is exciting to watch. However, I don’t give a da$$ about his haughty stats when the Cats are not winning games. ETSU was a winnable game & the Coaches blew it. My friend, this is reality to me. I see what it is & not what I mentally want it to be. If you expect more out of WCU’s Football Program than what we are now getting, you are living in a fantasy world. One last comment, WCU was the best offensive team in the SoCon last season & finished 4th in the SoCon Standings because of a sorry defense. Just like Smack said in one of his posts, Coach Speir is a great guy but he is not a good HC. I have said the same thing during the past 4 years. I guess time will tell what will happen.
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Post by jim64 on Oct 28, 2018 19:27:42 GMT -5
The problem is not a young defense. It is how Coach Speir has recruited for the past 7 years. He has loaded up on the Offensive Side of the ball & not recruited well on the defensive side of the ball. Western may turn out to be the number 1 offensive team in the SoCon but will finish last or next to last in the SoCon Standings. Remember, Offense sells tickets & defense wins Championships. In the NFL, the team with the best Defense usually wins the Super Bowl. Lack of Recruiting & Depth on the Defensive Side of the ball is directly linked to Coach Speir. He is using the same template that App State used 10 years ago & it is not working. Tyrie Adams is an outstanding player & he is exciting to watch. However, I don’t give a da$$ about his haughty stats when the Cats are not winning games. ETSU was a winnable game & the Coaches blew it. My friend, this is reality to me. I see what it is & not what I mentally want it to be. If you expect more out of WCU’s Football Program than what we are now getting, you are living in a fantasy world. One last comment, WCU was the best offensive team in the SoCon last season & finished 4th in the SoCon Standings because of a sorry defense. Just like Smack said in one of his posts, Coach Speir is a great guy but he is not a good HC. I have said the same thing during the past 4 years. I guess time will tell what will happen. Don’t get me wrong about my comments. I respect your remarks because I once felt exactly like you about WCU Football a long time ago. However, my respect for the Football Program & the WCU Administration has long been over. I really wanted the team to do well this year for the Senior Players & their Parents. I am a big fan of Smack & his son. Ian B. & his Dad are great as well. I should have known not to get my hopes up & get disappointed this season like the past 50 or so seasons I have witnessed. For some of us, time is running out & the likelihood of a SoCon Championship during our lifetime seems to be remote at best.
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Post by wcu72 on Oct 28, 2018 19:50:03 GMT -5
I guess time will tell what will happen. Don’t get me wrong about my comments. I respect your remarks because I once felt exactly like you about WCU Football a long time ago. However, my respect for the Football Program & the WCU Administration has long been over. I really wanted the team to do well this year for the Senior Players & their Parents. I am a big fan of Smack & his son. Ian B. & his Dad are great as well. I should have known not to get my hopes up & get disappointed this season like the past 50 or so seasons I have witnessed. For some of us, time is running out & the likelihood of a SoCon Championship during our lifetime seems to be remote at best. Not remote, impossible.
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Post by Lenoir Cat on Oct 28, 2018 19:58:47 GMT -5
I can't find the thread that posted the records for WCU football on but I can guarantee during Coach Waters reign that you take out the 1969, 1974, 1983 and 1984 seasons, there were a ton of 4-7, 5-6, 6-5 and 7-5 seasons... There are seasons where we had only 2 or 3 wins... This is in no way saying that Coach Waters is not the greatest coach WCU ever had but just to offer some reality... Even when our record dipped a little, we always seemed to rebound... You take away the first years of Coach Speirs time in Cullowhee and you will find his record is very comparable... Also, we have never won a SoCon championship (although I would argue that the 1983 team was the true champion!)... Lastly we all need to remember that while there are literally a handful of us that post, there are tons of other eyes scanning these boards... Some of these eyes could be current players... Some could be recruits... We are ALL frustrated... We ALL want WCU to win in any amd everygame they play... We ALL want championships... We should always remember that... Skip Maybe the thread you were looking for is this one, catamount.boards.net/thread/7957/inside-insightYou'll have to scroll down a few posts to find the post with the coaches records. I will try and repost it sometime tomorrow... I created a word doc showing every year... Right now I have to lay down as an xray today showed I have pneumonia... Never had it before and right now it is kicking my tail!
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