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Post by jackdaniels03 on Nov 22, 2022 17:28:53 GMT -5
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Post by jim68 on Nov 22, 2022 17:48:05 GMT -5
I hate that we are losing good talent to the portal. However, the coaches keep or lose their jobs on how the team performs overall. We need more than 2 solid QB's at any given time. And several of those guys know they have little chance of getting to the top. Another example of unregarded backups who have done well is Stetson Bennett who was 3rd or 4th and got to the top of the list early in the season. Who knows how many games Carlos will play next year? And what happens if Cole gets hurt? I like the fact that the coaches are able to keep the stable of recruits. If we know we have a senior, sophomore, and one other QB current, we have the flexibility to recruit for the future. And I totally agree about shoring up places where we have least depth (both lines in particular). Well 75, the team is down to basically 2 QBs. 4 of the 7 QBs that were on the 2022 Roster are gone. The only one left is basically a bench warmer. I think he will also be gone in the near future. It is unusual for 5 QBs to leave a program at once. I don’t know if there were issues between the QBs & the Coaching Staff or we had a number of unqualified QBs that were recruited that could not run our complicated offensive. I agree with you that you need at least 3 solid QBs on the roster. We need to keep in mind that the RPO Offense can be a QB killer because the QB is also a running back.
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Post by jim68 on Nov 22, 2022 18:00:48 GMT -5
Does anyone have any ideas about Brody Palhegyi? Does he plan to stay or join the other QBs? He is the only QB left on the roster that has not declared anything. I believe we’ll enter the recruiting season with only two QBs on the Roster.
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Nov 22, 2022 18:20:12 GMT -5
Not surprised. Toler and Linke went to HS together and Toler de-committed from ECU to come to Western to be with Linke. This is a big loss. He did not get the playing time but he was one of our most talented receivers.
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Post by FLCATAMOUNT on Nov 22, 2022 18:34:21 GMT -5
Does anyone have any ideas about Brody Palhegyi? Does he plan to stay or join the other QBs? He is the only QB left on the roster that has not declared anything. I believe we’ll enter the recruiting season with only two QBs on the Roster. We all knew this was coming. The only freshman QB that got a chance to prove what he could do in a game was Gonzalez. They all got snaps against Presbyterian but that was it. It would have been nice if some of the others would have gotten a chance to show what they could do in a real game. Not questioning the Bell’s decision but if these guys thought they had a chance to compete for the position, they would have stayed. You don’t leave if you think you will be given a chance. That’s common sense. Gonzalez is from Florida, played at the HS where Coach Bell was head coach years ago and his daddy is Billy Gonzalez, who was the WR coach at UF for years and he and coach Bell know each other well. Also Billy is a great well known recruiter in Florida. I am not saying the kid can’t play or he does not deserve the great chance that he was given. I thought he did a good job. I am saying that it would have been nice to see what some of the other QBs could have done in a game. Especially in games that were not close like Mercer or Citadel. We will never know now.
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Post by jim68 on Nov 22, 2022 18:41:58 GMT -5
Not all of those 7 or 8 QB's were on scholarship if I remember correctly! I really don't think we saw a movie play under Speir as he had no script! I really think the Bells have a script and we will see next year more of it play out! Every year that Coach Speir was the Head Coach he would bring in Freshmen & not play them. The next year most of them would be gone. He would then say we have a young team. His plan was simple, do not play Freshmen. I will give Coach Bell credit because he will play Freshman.
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Post by mtncat1 on Nov 22, 2022 21:08:34 GMT -5
"Every year that Coach Speir was the Head Coach he would bring in Freshmen & not play them. The next year most of them would be gone. He would then say we have a young team. His plan was simple, do not play Freshmen. I will give Coach Bell credit because he will play Freshman."
100% agree. It took me much longer than you and many others to catch on to that trend, but looking back, it certainly was a key theme of his coaching era. Now, Bell and crew have to deal with the portal so the losses of freshman each season will be magnified. Even if Bell continues to try to play the best freshman at the spots that make the most sense for the team, he'll have to deal with other freshman who think: "Why isn't that me out there?", then leave in a MUCH easier and efficient fashion than the seasons under previous coaching staffs. But hey, most other programs are going to have to deal with the same situation. So, there's some solace to that I guess.
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Post by cbyland on Nov 22, 2022 22:19:54 GMT -5
It really is not unheard of to lose multiple QBs in a year, especially in an offense like this. Coaches often and intentionally over recruit in the QB area and everyone has a chance at practice to prove they should be given that shot. Those that are transferring or those on the depth chart below Carlos and Cole are on down the depth chart for a reason and its either because Cole and Carlos are the two best options and have proven it or the others just are not ready or just have not proven to be the top ones. This happens in a lot of programs, wither its Alabama, UNC, ECU, So. Cal, etc. QBs are often over recruited and when they realize they can play somewhere else but that they are not going to be able to over match the current talent they transfer. Nothing wrong with it and I wish them the best. I bet every QB that transfers will transfer to a program that is below Division I (like Division II, Division II, NAIA or JUCO). Which indicates they are just not Division 1 caliber. I do believe that Kerwin Bell better than anyone understands being a walk on or low on the depth chart and having to prove yourself. I mean that is how he became the UF QB in the 80s. I assume he knows true talent better than any of us and if the person last on the depth chart proved they are the best and have the best motivation and heart, they will get elevated.
Also, I would look for Bell to go to the Transfer Portal to get quality QBs in our system to continue to challenge Carlos and Cole, some may very well be FBS Transfers. So I think we will be perfectly fine.
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Post by SCCat66 on Nov 22, 2022 22:33:24 GMT -5
Keighly had a lot of passes thrown to him in the early games and made some great catches vs. Charleston Southern and Ga Tech.
Didn't seem to get as much activity later in the season. Hate to see him go.
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Post by SCCat66 on Nov 22, 2022 22:38:15 GMT -5
"Every year that Coach Speir was the Head Coach he would bring in Freshmen & not play them. The next year most of them would be gone. He would then say we have a young team. His plan was simple, do not play Freshmen. I will give Coach Bell credit because he will play Freshman."
100% agree. It took me much longer than you and many others to catch on to that trend, but looking back, it certainly was a key theme of his coaching era. Now, Bell and crew have to deal with the portal so the losses of freshman each season will be magnified. Even if Bell continues to try to play the best freshman at the spots that make the most sense for the team, he'll have to deal with other freshman who think: "Why isn't that me out there?", then leave in a MUCH easier and efficient fashion than the seasons under previous coaching staffs. But hey, most other programs are going to have to deal with the same situation. So, there's some solace to that I guess.
Our coaches will be scouring the Transfer Portal for people who did not feel they got a real chance somewhere else. And we will pick up some folks who will help us a lot next year. The blade cuts both ways.
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